Yes. Even Bobby Played The Sokolsky opening theory

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Robert James Fischer vs Donald Ina
"Guess Who's Coming to D Ina"
Simul, 51b (1964) · 1-0

This superb game by Bobby Fischer showcases the polish opening.

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Need a clue as to finding this game

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https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1044197

Fischer played 1 .b4 and won 🏆 

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Thanks My friend for posting the game. Not my strong point. But it was a great game by Bobby. An unusual board set up . Particularly in the middle game.You don’t see it often because of the unusual opening theory.

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Good to see you here too Charlotte😇😇

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games from Ivanchuk (he beat li chao quite persuasively with 1.b4 twice in a row!) or Carlsen with 1.b4 are more instructive.

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The polish opening may only seem unsound if black plays text book theory against this opening.

But the beauty of the opening is that you will need to play chess from move 1. 

It can catch medium level chess players off guard and indeed top players too.

Most chess today has theory well established on most of the standard openings. Hence you actually only begin to play chess later in the opening.

the polish opening makes those that haven’t seen it often have to devise a strategy . Usually being in the centre rather than working from the sides.

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The Fischer simul game against a weak opponent does not tell much.
Neither do the rapid/blitz games of Carlsen and Ivanchuk.
https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=2049549 

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Very interesting game but the opponent played very weakly. No real attempt to control the centre and got all his pieces stuck on the wrong side of the board. The action is usually on the kingside. What does e6 do against b4, except block your own bishop?

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tygxc wrote:

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The Fischer simul game against a weak opponent does not tell much.
Neither do the rapid/blitz games of Carlsen and Ivanchuk.
https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=2049549 

what else do you want? Ivanchuk showed that its a good enough to opening as white that you can outplay 2700 opposition, even without the element of surprise in rapid. Carlsen showed that even agaisnt Giri one of the most over-booked super GM's today you can out play a person of his caliber with it. He barely got away with a draw.


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It is just rapid/blitz.
By contrast Fischer opened 1 b3 three times in classical games, he won all 3
https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1044318

https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1044299 

https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1441737

 

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tygxc wrote:

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It is just rapid/blitz.
By contrast Fischer opened 1 b3 three times in classical games, he won all 3
https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1044318

https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1044299 

https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1441737

 

....so?

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b4 is a better opening than b3, because b4 is a multipurpose move. It's far harder to play well than b3 is. 1. b4 is on a par with the major openings, regarding correctness and complexity.

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Looking at the first of those games, Fischer didn't win because of the opening. Mecking maybe should have played f6 but he didn't want to compromise his pawns and ended up being tactically outplayed in a difficult ending. In contrast, Fischer pushed pawns all over the place, indicating that he had better tactical AND positional awareness than Mecking. Indicating that Fischer was brilliant. Brilliant people aren't right about everything they think. Just quite a bit of it.

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Whilst I enjoy playing the polish I read here on the site that if black plays “ text book” against it then black has eventually an advantage ( maybe even controlling the tempo).

The old story about being “ in the Centre” rather than trying to control the Center from the flank and who has tempo

But if you are playing white against a much stronger player it may give more opportunity for draw options than trying to outplay someone who knows all the standard openings back to front and  much better than the polish theory.

Something along the lines of learning one opening back to front then being average in all of them.

It never worked for me lol but it sounds good😊😊😊

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Pushing b4 to b5 if the game deems it appears to be a pawn advanced too far to early maybe.

I like playing it because it stops the knight coming out momentarily.

Combinations after that are odd to play compared to conventional openings which is therefore fun to play😊

 

 

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Pushing the pawn to b5 is the better way of using it, rather than trying to preserve it by playing a3. If white plays a3 in the Sokolsky, then black has equalised. That was what the GMs used to say about it. Pushing onto b5 has the effect of either constricting or breaking up black's queenside.

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technical_knockout wrote:

i had a somewhat strong super nintendo chessmaster game & 1.b4 was the ONLY game i was able to win versus it.

i feel like i probably have a lifetime plus score with the sokolsky also... i'd probably generally rank it just behind 1.f4 in terms of correctness.

Ahead of f4, because it doesn't weaken the king and it activates a bishop.

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technical_knockout wrote:

i had a somewhat strong super nintendo chessmaster game & 1.b4 was the ONLY game i was able to win versus it.

i feel like i probably have a lifetime plus score with the sokolsky also... i'd probably generally rank it just behind 1.f4 in terms of correctness.

i actually think its sounder than f4.

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Here's the only time I played the Polish opening just to fill all my books section in the awards page. 1.b4 Nf6 2.Bb2 g6 6.g4!?

https://www.chess.com/game/live/42178156917