As long as Carlsen remains WC, he will not quit playing professional chess. The prize fund in World Chess Championship is too large to ignore
Do you think Magnus Carlsen will break the 3000 barrier


I hate to see people with an IQ of like 180 play chess when they should be doing more productive things like doctor or astronamor or mathematician I know chess is a great game but it's more of a hobby I think it is a waste of potential no offence
a person achieves something with hard work, a high IQ is then attributed to them. and art has its inspiring qualities and is worthwhile in its creation. productivity and usefulness i don't see as a function of gdp; you can find value in anything and anyone, but especially in the best artists (and i would include innovators as well), maybe more so than in the leaders of many academic professions.

Here's an interesting thought: What if he could gain rating points by playing a supercomputer in a sanctioned match? Then it would certainly be possible

As long as Carlsen remains WC, he will not quit playing professional chess. The prize fund in World Chess Championship is too large to ignore
That very fact may lead to his leaving the game early... A couple more huge paydays and he could easily retire if he so desired. Once the money is no longer the driving consideration, how long will he play?

He may break 3000 but not while he is WCC. A dozen or so mega GMs will have to come along and undoubtedly they will. One of these guys is going to knock him off but Magnus will still be one of the elite players with a plus 3000 rating to go with it.

> hate to see people with an IQ of like 180 play chess when they should be doing more productive things like doctor or astronamor or mathematician <
What?? Since when is being a mathematician "productive?" Sitting in a university office fiddling with number theory is somehow is better for our species than producing excellent chess? You want him to be like that guy in Good Will Hunting, polishing his Fields Medal?
And have you opened the yellow pages lately? Exactly how many more doctors do we need? You want Magnus Carlsen doing prostate exams instead of becoming World Champion? Writing out scrip for Xanax to worried yuppies instead of castling Queenside against Anand?
And oh, yes, we certainly need more ASTRONOMERS. The world always has a shortage of good Bordeaux wine, early model Ferraris, and ASTRONOMERS. Maybe with his 180 IQ he can discover another dwarf planet, or formulate a theory on pulsars that will quicken our culture.
Geez dude...where's the chess love?

Speaking as a doctor (but with only an IQ of 138) I doubt someone with an IQ of 180 would actually make a very good doctor. They would likely struggle with the "human" side of the profession. In my opinion chess is as valid an expression of what humans are capable of as any other intellectual pursuit so why not chess?
Speaking as a doctor (but with only an IQ of 138) I doubt someone with an IQ of 180 would actually make a very good doctor. They would likely struggle with the "human" side of the profession. In my opinion chess is as valid an expression of what humans are capable of as any other intellectual pursuit so why not chess?
I agrre with u, however u hardly would expect a genius that went to med school to become a physician, u would rather expect him to become an academic researcher, maybe on oncology or genetics.

I'm bristling at the notion that "more productive" somehow requires a career in the sciences. Why can't Magnus take his fabulous IQ and become a composer, or an architect, or a most excellent car salesman?
Assuming that the sciences are the ultimate and desired destination for brain power, and that "productivity" is best measured by success in the laboratory...lame.

I'm bristling at the notion that "more productive" somehow requires a career in the sciences. Why can't Magnus take his fabulous IQ and become a composer, or an architect, or a most excellent car salesman?
Assuming that the sciences are the ultimate and desired destination for brain power, and that "productivity" is best measured by success in the laboratory...lame.
A chess genius is not assured to be a genius in science, math, music, etc. If Carlsen redirect his talents, time and energy to other fields, he would be likely just be an average or an above average scientist, engineer, or whatever. Carlsen's place is the chess world where he could become the greatest.

I'm bristling at the notion that "more productive" somehow requires a career in the sciences. Why can't Magnus take his fabulous IQ and become a composer, or an architect, or a most excellent car salesman?
Assuming that the sciences are the ultimate and desired destination for brain power, and that "productivity" is best measured by success in the laboratory...lame.
ok, what if Albert Einstein was only a chess player? Sure he'd be awesome at chess, but there would not have been all those scientific advances. I get what youre saying, but "car salesman?" -that's lame. People are saying that if you are that intelligent then you should be working to advance mankinds understanding of medicine and physics. Playing chess is a waste of time compared to that.
Car salesman? really? you must just be trolling

>ok, what if Albert Einstein was only a chess player?<
Nonsensical argument. What if Garry Kasparov was a mass murderer. Maybe chess would have been better? And is Albert Einstein your avatar of social progress? Really? How much have you or your loved ones personally benefited from the General Theory of Relativity?
""car salesman?" -that's lame"
No, your elitism is lame. And "working to advance understanding of medicine and physics" is simply YOUR opinion on what is meritorious about human achievement. Keeping you alive for longer or making larger bombs is no more a wondrous benefit to the world, as building a decent restaurant or writing a ballet.

I just think Magnus should make this world a little better with his intelligence like make a cure for cancer or make a massive rockets ship. I understand why he plays chess because is really fun.

We had massive rocket ships, and they've been trying to cure cancer for decades. Achievement is not predicated on high IQs...nor do people with high IQs necessarily succeed at anything. Most of the great accomplishments of the world...in science, the arts, and politics...have been done by people through hard work, not the ability to see mates in 6.
I hate to see people with an IQ of like 180 play chess when they should be doing more productive things like doctor or astronamor or mathematician I know chess is a great game but it's more of a hobby I think it is a waste of potential no offence