Hans Niemann vs Piers Morgan

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lighthouse

In 1626, the story goes, Indigenous inhabitants sold off the entire island of Manhattan to the Dutch for a tiny sum: just $24 worth of beads and "trinkets." This nugget of history took on such huge significance in the following centuries that it served as "the birth certificate for New York City,"

The history of beads & New York / was not New York in the background of the interview ?

If so , it would give a whole new meaning to the uses of beads & chess ? evil crycry

jay_1944
kippuss wrote:

Hans displayed zero shame or remorse for his cheating in the past. In trying to show the difference in seriousness of cheating OTB vs online he just made it appear that he doesn't consider cheating online as wrong. It seems that Hans fans think Hans looks good from this, but people who were on the fence have a worse impression of Hans after this interview.

I agree, the fact that he keeps saying he cheated online so it doesn't matter at all, doesn't sit well.

DanielGuel

I do find it hard to believe that Hans has only cheated in two individual games (or instances... I don't remember how it's worded). I think if you get away with cheating once, it becomes more of a pattern. He let that information out before it became about litigation and now that he is/was in a lawsuit, it did him no good to confess further. He's probably more of an (online) serial cheater than we realize.

THAT SAID... Piers clearly didn't understand that cheating online and OTB are entirely different. That's why I don't quite sympathize with the "once a cheater, always a cheater" notion in this context. Many top players cheat(ed) on Chess.com, even in prize events, and just go about their OTB lives. Why are they excused? Why does Hans have to be the scapegoat for all online cheaters who play OTB?

mpaetz
lighthouse wrote:

In 1626, the story goes, Indigenous inhabitants sold off the entire island of Manhattan to the Dutch for a tiny sum: just $24 worth of beads and "trinkets." This nugget of history took on such huge significance in the following centuries that it served as "the birth certificate for New York City,"

Ironically, Manhattan Island was uninhabited at the time. Those Lenape (Native Americans) just happened to be passing through on their way from their hunting grounds near where Philadelphia is now to their fishing grounds on Long Island and swindled the Dutch out of a chest full of trinkets.

GWTR
I thought Danny Gormally had gotten this thread frozen?
Jenium
GWTR wrote:
I thought Danny Gormally had gotten this thread frozen?

Isn't that the dude who beat up Aronjan?

Jenium

Let's see how Hans will kick a** in the US championship.

DanielGuel
Jenium wrote:
GWTR wrote:
I thought Danny Gormally had gotten this thread frozen?

Isn't that the dude who beat up Aronjan?

https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chess.pl?pid=17316&pid2=49003

I don't think Gormally beat him up on the chess board

Off the chessboard though...

Jenium

At the Bermuda party of the Olympiad long time ago...