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I'm permanently startled at what the evidence suggests is a limitless supply of chess cheaters. They just keep coming. Apparently,being fake-good at internet-chess is irrresitably appealing to a whole lot of people.

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Some people will do anything for the fame, wealth and women of an internet chess player.

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Karl_ wrote:

I thought my percentile was much higher lately.  I don't usually check it, but someone pointed it out to me.  Only thing I can figure is a lot of players higher rated than me are gone now.


 chess.com merged stats with Facebook users more than doubling the amount of users ,my stats went from Top10% to Top5 as well

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I think another account has been closed! In the top, maybe 10 list! Anybody got a clue?

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toutou

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They should all be forwarded to and given a free lifetime account on bannedfromchess.com

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dschaef2 wrote:

They were closed for cheating?  Isn't nosferatu a FM or something?


Nosferatu is FM Stefan Docx. He was banned some time ago from another site. I guess that, instead talking to his pieces, he started to talk to his computer :)

Being a titled player doesn't mean you can't cheat. Atlantischess (Dimitar Kacakovski) was another FM cheater.

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toutou's account has not been closed. He hasn't been online for about 25 days, so they moved him off the list. His account is still open, and can be used if he chooses.

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it's closed

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tonydal wrote:

And now YelenaDembo.  How do you even tell these geniusballs are cheating btw? (boggles the mind)...


Awesome! I think Dembo is the first GM banned for cheating here? Anyway, great accomplishment!

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YelenaDumbo?

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heinzie wrote:


YelenaDumbo?


Have you noticed her large ears? :)

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tonydal wrote:

Whoa (Nikolai Yezhov has been summoned)...


New poll topic; which chess.com staff member will Erik bump off first...

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Dunno, it's all pseudonyms in that racket.  I suppose we should look for the one writing extensively on the Spanish Civil War, or wait for someone to flee to Mexico.

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Karl_ wrote:
Mithras wrote:
Karl_ wrote:

I thought my percentile was much higher lately.  I don't usually check it, but someone pointed it out to me.  Only thing I can figure is a lot of players higher rated than me are gone now.


 chess.com merged stats with Facebook users more than doubling the amount of users ,my stats went from Top10% to Top5 as well


That doesn't account for it.  Or not most of it as the number of players did not increase that much.  A lot of those FB accounts are same players.  It's just a way to artificially inflate members here, not players.  As you can see from many posts here they are really cracking down now and even closing titled players.  They never did this before.  Must be a huge purge going on now.


I think some analysis work has been done lately, and the results were not too far off what was expected. Is there a problem with that, and what kind of prob.

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tonydal wrote:

And now YelenaDembo.  How do you even tell these geniusballs are cheating btw? (boggles the mind)...


Wow. Yelena Dembo has a  2452 FIDE rating! She's a famous freaking player (The #40 Woman player in the world; i just looked it up) -- what on earth would possess a player of that caliber to cheat here?... and also it seems Chess.com must be quite confident in their detection methods to close the account of such a player. 

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good riddance.

war Karl_!

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wait i swear Nosferatu is a spell in fire emblem used by shamans or druids or summoners

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Deep Rybka 3 x64 Hash:256 Time:30s Depth:12-20ply

AMD Phenom x 4 2.30Ghz 4GB RAM

YelenaDembo (Games: 20)
Top 1 Match: 530/723 ( 73.3% )
Top 2 Match: 638/723 ( 88.2% )
Top 3 Match: 676/723 ( 93.5% )
Top 4 Match: 698/723 ( 96.5% )

Houdini 1.03a_1CPU @ 45 secs/move 416 MB Hash
Intel 2,4 gHz 1GB Ram
YelenaDembo Totals
Top 1 Match: 498/729 -  68,3%
Top 2 Match: 625/729 -  85,7%
Top 3 Match: 666/729 -  91,4%

Stockfish 1.8, 512MB hash, min/max ply=12/30, 40s/ply, 2GHz Core Duo:

{ YelenaDembo (Games: 20) }
{ Top 1 Match: 484/723 ( 66.9% )  Opponents: 402/713 ( 56.4% )
{ Top 2 Match: 608/723 ( 84.1% )  Opponents: 538/713 ( 75.5% )
{ Top 3 Match: 655/723 ( 90.6% )  Opponents: 623/713 ( 87.4% )
{ Top 4 Match: 681/723 ( 94.2% )  Opponents: 659/713 ( 92.4% )

Core2Duo 2.00GHz 1GB RAM

[Analysis "Houdini 1.03a w32 2_CPU Hash:256 Time:45s Depth:16-30ply"]
w/MegaBase+MegaCorr+Tablebase cutoff

{ YelenaDembo (Games: 20) }
{ Top 1 Match: 493/694 ( 71.0% )  
{ Top 2 Match: 609/694 ( 87.8% )  
{ Top 3 Match: 644/694 ( 92.8% )
{ Top 4 Match: 660/694 ( 95.1% )

Anyone who knows anything at all about engine match up analysis knows that any of the above results if verified = blatant engine use.

WGM Yelena Dembo has a current FIDE rating of 2452

FM Stefan Docx (Nosferatu) has a FIDE rating of 2342

Here are my results for banned FM Stefan Docx's in comparison:

Houdini 1.03a x64 4_CPU Hash:256 Time:30s Depth:12-20ply

AMD Phenom x 4 2.30Ghz 4GB DDR2 RAM

Nosferatu (Games: 20)
Top 1 Match: 537/801 ( 67.0% )
Top 2 Match: 680/801 ( 84.9% )
Top 3 Match: 735/801 ( 91.8% )
Top 4 Match: 770/801 ( 96.1% )

And now just to check on how engine-like WGM Dembo plays when unassisted, her otb stats from most recently completed chessgames.com vs 2200+ with 35+ total moves:

Dembo OTB games:
Stockfish 1.8, 512MB hash, min/max ply=12/30, 40s/ply, 2GHz Core Duo:
{ Yelena Dembo (Games: 20) }
{ Top 1 Match: 422/929 ( 45.4% )
{ Top 2 Match: 615/929 ( 66.2% )
{ Top 3 Match: 717/929 ( 77.2% )
{ Top 4 Match: 777/929 ( 83.6% )

I don't know how chess.com staff came to their decision; what methods they use & how they apply them, but hopefully you can see how obvious this case was.
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woah thats insane

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