My coach does not like Jeremy Silman...

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Brb2023bruhh

hmm

LonerDruid

Thats not true. There are a lot of good books out there. and I mean hundreds. But different people need different things and not just from a strength point of view. Some people need to be spoon fed. Some need to be covered in working by themselves etc. I think its a coaches job to know what a student needs. But there are not that many good coaches in that regard IMO.

They get so stuck in their ways. I have designed my coaching sylabis to incorporate so many different styles and methods to teach the vast amount of different personalities out there. Its important to always be ready to learn more ways to teach as a coach. happy.png

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RoobieRoo

Aagard lives five minutes from me.  I have only one of his companies Quality chess books, Experts v the Sicilian, its a great book if you play the Sicilian or 1.e4.  

macer75

Ok... but what does your Louis Vuitton think?

kindaspongey

"... before discussing the specifics of Dvoretsky's Endgame Manual [henceforth 'DEM'], a word of warning is in order. I must emphasize that this is a terribly advanced work that I don't think is a very good way for the average player to study the endgame. The majority of the examples are complex and position-specific, and neither the average student nor even strong masters will follow or play over most of the hundreds of positions that are given extensive analysis, not to mention the subvariations derived from those positions. Even when introducing 'the basics', Dvoretsky's approach is often more complex than is necessary for an average student, and in any case such a thick book will seldom be used for the sake of elementary instruction. The majority of the other material is frankly very difficult. So take note: I don't want to be blamed, in praising this book, for your purchasing something that you find intimidating, relatively dull, or otherwise unsatisfying. That said, if you are up to a real challenge and have a great deal of time to devote to reading and playing over examples you will inevitably derive great value from this work. ..." - IM John Watson (2005)
http://theweekinchess.com/john-watson-reviews/the-end-game-comes-before-we-know-it

kindaspongey

"I conceived the idea of writing a popular booklet devoted to the endgame back in the early 1950s, when I was working on an encyclopaedic reference work intended for players of high standard. Out of the mass of information on the endgame, I thought it was important to select the minimum which any chess enthusiast should know in order to handle competently the concluding phase of the game. It turned out that it was not necessary to know such a great deal." - Averbakh's Chess Endings Essential Knowledge

LonerDruid

lol by your guys definition then all books are crap... and that is not at all true. My father always said... dont blame the tool... blame the fool behind the tool! So dont blame the books for your own sucking!

kindaspongey
jengaias wrote:

... What "average" student means anyway?In their eyes it means the one that never improves. ...

"Their" eyes or the eyes of jengaias?

kindaspongey
jengaias wrote:

... For those that feel they are, or they deserve the chance to prove that they are, "improving average students" , I will repeat that chess is a dive in the deep. ...

"... there are many fine endgame books that guide the improving reader along in a gentle manner ..." - IM John Watson

dfgh123

average student means you have crappy chess genetics and will never get good no matter what you do

kindaspongey
jengaias wrote:

... I have seen 3 teachers teaching talented kids and not even one of them suggested Silman or Heisman to them. ... 3 very good teachers that have created several titled players very fast ...

Could there be more to chess instruction then the opinions of those involved with "teaching tatented kids" and creating "titled players very fast"?

"Jeremy Silman's HOW TO REASSESS YOUR CHESS is an example of a good book which explains many important ideas in clear terms." - GM John Nunn (2006)

"I would suggest Silman's book, ..." - IM pfren (~1 year ago, in a thread, "Reassess your Chess or My System?")
"... Silman’s Complete Endgame Course ... has already caught on with the average player in a big way, confirming Silman's status as the king of instructional writers. ..." - IM John Watson (2007)

kindaspongey
dfgh123 wrote:

average student means you have crappy chess genetics and will never get good no matter what you do

Is there any reason to be concerned with getting "good" in the eyes of dfgh123?

kindaspongey
jengaias wrote:

...  all these that Watson says about average student are for the average non talented and non improving student. ...

Who, other than jengaias, says "non improving"? Also, is talent a yes-or-no thing or a matter of degree?

kindaspongey
jengaias wrote:

... A weight lifter has to do several exercises to strengthen his body(bicep curls for example) , that he will never need when competing.That is what endgames is for the mind.

Is the same sort and amount of exercise appropriate for everyone?

RubenHogenhout
pfren schreef:

I don't think Silman's books are bad- especially his endgame course. Sure, they are not "best", but they do have a target audience, which is not necessarily chess ignorants.

I also think Silman is a nice guy. That does not mean I approve his teaching prose, but his overall attitude is very good.

 

I don t know this Silman. Is that a bad thing?

 

Rogue_King
keysquareskerfuffle wrote:

What's a good supplement to go along Silman's Endgame Course for players at around USCF/FIDE 1200-1600?  Was hoping this book would be all I need for endgame study, but sounds as though maybe it's not as complete as had hoped.  Am not likely to reach beyond this rating range, in fact there's a good possibility will never see 1600 even if had loads of study time which don't and probably never will.  

Thanks to everyone who's posted here, have seen some pretty helpful nuggets of chess wisdom. 

 

It's definitely all you need for 1600 level. Maybe read My System by Nimzowitsch, he has some interesting stuff on endgames in that book that aren't covered in Silman's book. Other than that you only need a new endgame book if you are 1900+ strength. Silman's book is perfect for u1900 players.

kindaspongey

The Silman book itself has some suggestions at the end for further reading.

LonerDruid

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Eseles
pfren wrote:
RubenHogenhout έγραψε:

I don t know this Silman. Is that a bad thing?

 

No.

Perhaps it's bad for Silman grin.png

keysquareskerfuffle

Thanks NM Rogue_King, nice to hear you say so.  Certainly will take some time for me to absorb the info in the first 212 pages (through class B) but I would like to at least do that. Enjoyed reading Benko's endgame column in Chess Life when I had a subcription to it, and feel that endgames are a big part of what makes chess such a rich and fascinating game; so am looking forward to taking up some kind of structured study of it.  Also have "Capablanca's  Best Chess Endings" by Chernev and have recently started reading this with pleasure.  Interesting about "My System" definitely a book would like to read.