Passive or Aggressive?

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Vanessa_Martinez

I suggest lightning then for you because in lightning its all about attack and not so much about thinking 

Vanessa_Martinez
HurricaneMichael1 wrote:
Vanessa_Martinez wrote:
HurricaneMichael1 wrote:

"Style? I have no style." Anatoly Karpov

Find the best move attack and give no chance for counter attack.

Like I said, there is always the "best move", chess is about finding that move every time, so there is no "style", because the best move may not be that "style".

Thats kind of true but if your playing a blitz game you only have so much time to find the best move so more or less your going to go for the best move to you.

Vanessa_Martinez
HurricaneMichael1 wrote:

That is another problem I have, I have a problem with blitzing in 30|0 games.

Not really in a 30 minute game its easy to find a few good moves but in a 3 day move game you can pretty much sit there and see a lot of out comes for every move

Vanessa_Martinez

Instinct? your saying theres instinct in chess? lol

Vanessa_Martinez
HurricaneMichael1 wrote:
Vanessa_Martinez wrote:

Instinct? your saying theres instinct in chess? lol

Of course there is, I use it alot.

I guess I would call it your best guess when it comes down to split decisions.

Vanessa_Martinez
HurricaneMichael1 wrote:
Vanessa_Martinez wrote:
HurricaneMichael1 wrote:
Vanessa_Martinez wrote:

Instinct? your saying theres instinct in chess? lol

Of course there is, I use it alot.

I guess I would call it your best guess when it comes down to split decisions.

Guessing is bullet.

Lol do you have a table of names for different games? Lightning is instinct and bullet is guessing what is blitz 5 or 10? or even live?

Vanessa_Martinez
HurricaneMichael1 wrote:

There is really no standard for what is blitz, bullet etc..

Heres my standard Attack Attack and Attack... and attack some more. 

Vanessa_Martinez

Actually set up attack then attack attack and attack

NimzoRoy
Vanessa_Martinez wrote:

So I have thought about it before but now I want to know other peoples opinions on it. Is it better to play passive or aggressive? I personally like playing aggressive for the advatage of the attack. The question is which one is better.

There isn't any "one size fits all" answer here. In general, it's easier to attack than defend (at least for amateurs) because if you bungle an attack you may just go from having an advantage to being =, or remaining a pawn down in a gambit line with no compensation. BUT if you bungle the defense you're at risk of losing too much material or getting mated. It's also easier to be proactive instead of having to be reactive every move ie you have to answer your opponent's threats every move and hope their attack runs out of steam or they make a mistake before you do.

Howsomever, only YOU can determine what's best for you OTB. And again, even if you like to be aggressive or passive in general, you have to remain open-minded and be alert to situations in which it's time to "think outside the box" and alter your usual playing style when the situation calls for it.

Vanessa_Martinez
HurricaneMichael1 wrote:

It depends on the position.  Say you could take a rook but if you do the opponent can checkmate you?  In that case you can't "Set up attack then attack attack and attack." because you lose. Yes, there are some cases where you can defend AND attack in the same move but these are not the majority of defensive move that do so.

Ya lol thats the problem i sometimes fall for a fools mate which is silly but sometimes All i can think is attack attack and attack.

ninfan
HurricaneMichael1 wrote:

"Style? I have no style." Anatoly Karpov

Interesting... analyzing his quotation, I may conclude that his style is agressive for sure. Very brief and clear in his words and also a little eccentric... Then, in the end, he does have a style lol and his own personality shows that. But it's psychology, so doesn't matter discussing about that.

Vanessa_Martinez 

@"Instinct? your saying theres instinct in chess? lol

 

Bullet chess is pure insticts if you see... Well, what I mean basically is that the mind of a chess' grandmaster is full of information of reading books, watching games and also playing them. Thus, their experience of being an expert chess player exhales when they start playing lighting games... It's hard to explain simplified.

 

Either way, people's replies here are right... We must consider the situation in itself in a certain period of the game, no doubt. And for this we change our game according the circumstances, since we can't let our king adrift, seeing a proeminent attack coming.

Nevertheless, the question evoked here is: taking as reference the game in general and not a specific moment of it; which style would be better? agressive or passive? obviously that agressive, because you'll have a chance of winning and having advantage as already said for most part of us; but only if you're white, I believe, because white starts playing - however it's all theorically infered. Actually, analyzing technically, in a game you can't say one is better than other and vice-versa. You must examine it minutely and conclude if it's more appropriate being agressive and or passive.

 


Vanessa_Martinez
ninfan wrote:
HurricaneMichael1 wrote:

"Style? I have no style." Anatoly Karpov

Interesting... analyzing his quotation, I may conclude that his style is agressive for sure. Very brief and clear in his words and also a little eccentric... Then, in the end, he does have a style lol and his own personality shows that. But it's psychology, so doesn't matter discussing about that.

Vanessa_Martinez 

@"Instinct? your saying theres instinct in chess? lol

 

Bullet chess is pure insticts if you see... Well, what I mean basically is that the mind of a chess' grandmaster is full of information of reading books, watching games and also playing them. Thus, their experience of being an expert chess player exhales when they start playing lighting games... It's hard to explain simplified.

 

Either way, people's replies here are right... We must consider the situation in itself in a certain period of the game, no doubt. And for this we change our game according the circumstances, since we can't let our king adrift, seeing a proeminent attack coming.

Nevertheless, the question evoked here is: taking as reference the game in general and not a specific moment of it; which style would be better? agressive or passive? obviously that agressive, because you'll have a chance of winning and having advantage as already said for most part of us; but only if you're white, I believe, because white starts playing - however it's all theorically infered. Actually, analyzing technically, in a game you can't say one is better than other and vice-versa. You must examine it minutely and conclude if it's more appropriate being agressive and or passive.

 


ya i dont know about all that instinct lol its more of a logical approach its about probability not instinct. 

Vanessa_Martinez

Like theres a risk factor a skill factor and maybe a luck factor but a instinct factor i dont think so.

Fear_ItseIf

I think the word he was looking for was intuition, which is definately a large factor in bullet chess, also a bit in long time controls.

Being able to have an idea of what moves are good without calculating is important, since you have no time to calculate.

Vanessa_Martinez
Fear_ItseIf wrote:

I think the word he was looking for was intuition, which is definately a large factor in bullet chess, also a bit in long time controls.

Being able to have an idea of what moves are good without calculating is important, since you have no time to calculate.

ya there we go that is a better term. Still i guess after a while we gain a lot of it 

Vanessa_Martinez

I know I always see at least one or two moves i can make right off the bat without thinking but it doesnt mean there the best moves. 

Vanessa_Martinez

thats kind of how blitz is see a couple moves and remember them then go in depth with other moves and try to make a decision as fast as possible.

Vanessa_Martinez
HurricaneMichael1 wrote:
Fear_ItseIf wrote:

I think the word he was looking for was intuition, which is definately a large factor in bullet chess, also a bit in long time controls.

Being able to have an idea of what moves are good without calculating is important, since you have no time to calculate.

Yes, I agree!

Anyways I was already about to say (before I read the above post), that I have a online game going and I nearly took a "free" poisoned pawn because I attack, but I saw I can't take because I get my bishops skewered.

Forget that pawn go for the queen lol

ninfan

And also, just to complement and clarify a little more our thread. Playing passively doesn't necessarily imply that this person has a defensive style... the circumstance(s) simply leads her/him to change and adapt... but in general he/she is an agressive one. Having as principle that, we can say that every player starts having a common objetive: capture the opponent's king. And hence who maintains the excessive attack might win in the end. So, passive is a consequence after all.

ninfan

Oh my god... Yeah... Oh, I just misunderstood the word... I meant intuition. I am sorry... consequence of similar words.