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People who DO NOT RESIGN in a lost position.

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NasirAhmed9191
Loki_god_of_deception wrote:
NasirAhmed9191 wrote:

In my opinion if your opponent is up a piece, you should resign and give him the respect and show sportsmanship

Why can't u just tire ur opponent so the person he plays next will have an easier time.

That would be very clever approach wink

RichColorado

In three of my games I gave up pieces just to get a draw by repeatability. Instead of resigning . . .

But if it is impossible to draw I resigned the games . . .

Nylon-Sock-100
You learn nothing from resigning ! 🤨
Elroch
Nylon-Sock-100 wrote:
You learn nothing from resigning ! 🤨

You learn more from the new game you play rather than playing on in a dead lost position hoping for a lottery win.

lfPatriotGames
Elroch wrote:
Nylon-Sock-100 wrote:
You learn nothing from resigning ! 🤨

You learn more from the new game you play rather than playing on in a dead lost position hoping for a lottery win.

Do you have any evidence for that?

Besides, it's impossible to play on in a dead lost position. You can't win if you've already been checkmated. We can play on in a losing position, however. The reason I play on in a losing position has nothing to do with hoping for a lottery win. The only reason is to play the game as it was intended. The only thing to learn from resigning is how to lose. If the opponent has played well enough to put me in a position where I am likely to lose soon, he deserves the credit and satisfaction of accomplishing that goal. I have no interest in taking that away from him. To me that would be rude and inconsiderate.

There is a time and a place for quitting. Giving up a chess game just because you think you might lose probably isn't one of them.

insane

If you don't resign, you just have a low sportsmanship. Unless it's blitz or bullet. But in rapid if you're down 10 minutes and 500 points of material the chance you will get stalemated is very rare.

glamdring27

'Sportsmanship' is just one person trying to enforce their own non-rules on other people.

lfPatriotGames
glamdring27 wrote:

'Sportsmanship' is just one person trying to enforce their own non-rules on other people.

I agree. Poor sportsmanship in chess would be something like tossing the pieces across the room, kicking the opponent in the shin, etc. I don't see how following the rules of chess is poor sportsmanship. In general, I think quitting is poor sportsmanship because the quitter is attempting to deprive the winner of the goal of chess, which is checkmate.

But I do think there are valid reasons for resigning, like a medical emergency or something comes up that's simply more important than a game of chess.

VivikittyCAT

Hate everything 🙃

insane
lfPatriotGames wrote:
glamdring27 wrote:

'Sportsmanship' is just one person trying to enforce their own non-rules on other people.

I agree. Poor sportsmanship in chess would be something like tossing the pieces across the room, kicking the opponent in the shin, etc. I don't see how following the rules of chess is poor sportsmanship. In general, I think quitting is poor sportsmanship because the quitter is attempting to deprive the winner of the goal of chess, which is checkmate.

But I do think there are valid reasons for resigning, like a medical emergency or something comes up that's simply more important than a game of chess.

Super grandmasters would care to disagree.

lfPatriotGames
jli30c wrote:
lfPatriotGames wrote:
glamdring27 wrote:

'Sportsmanship' is just one person trying to enforce their own non-rules on other people.

I agree. Poor sportsmanship in chess would be something like tossing the pieces across the room, kicking the opponent in the shin, etc. I don't see how following the rules of chess is poor sportsmanship. In general, I think quitting is poor sportsmanship because the quitter is attempting to deprive the winner of the goal of chess, which is checkmate.

But I do think there are valid reasons for resigning, like a medical emergency or something comes up that's simply more important than a game of chess.

Super grandmasters would care to disagree.

Maybe. Maybe super grandmasters disagree that a medical emergency is a valid reason for resigning. Maybe they think a stroke or heart attack or a loved one in a crisis is no reason to resign. But the super grandmasters and I, we would just have to agree to disagree.

glamdring27

Super Grandmasters mostly don't want to waste their own time playing losing positions, nevermind the opponent, so they take the short cut option of resigning. So do I mostly when I'm in a position I feel is lost, but I don't put that expectation on my opponent. They can resign or play on as they choose. I don't resign out of sportsmanship, I do it because I'm not interested in wasting my time. If my opponent thinks it's not a waste of their time when they are losing badly that's fine. I'll either checkmate them or I'll screw up, thus showing that they were right not to resign.

Loki_god_of_deception

ur just scared to be beaten down a queen that's why u made this thread.

wiredtearow

Being ahead is one thing. Converting a winning position to a win is another. You're not against stockfish. If you're in the same rating as your opponent, your opponent is also probably susceptible to the same type of blunders and tricks.

I'm ok with losing games but my opponent has to take them from me. If I resigned games just because I'm in a lost position, I would've been down around 100-200 elo. 

Mickdonedee
wiredtearow wrote:

Being ahead is one thing. Converting a winning position to a win is another. You're not against stockfish. If you're in the same rating as your opponent, your opponent is also probably susceptible to the same type of blunders and tricks.

I'm ok with losing games but my opponent has to take them from me. If I resigned games just because I'm in a lost position, I would've been down around 100-200 elo. 

Yes, I agree. If you're losing but not about to be mated you can still apply pressure and make your opponent earn the win. This approach develops fighting qualities and resilience. Don't resign because you lost an opportunity to win. If you can't win try and grind out a draw.

HONALOOCHIE

All you have to do is stop moaning and Checkmate the opponent

Game Over !!