That last was referring to daily games.
People who DO NOT RESIGN in a lost position.
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I played a game in which my opponent was up +12. Unfortunately for him, I did not resign, and although he had a second Queen, I managed to checkmate him in an incredible way. It was a very messy game, but still, my heart went out to my opponent at the end.
Jul 24, 2018
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#1824
I hate those , who don't resign, when the( live or daily) game is practically over. EXCEPTION :The opponent is better and higher rated.
Timeouts are common in dead lost daily games. That's a good part of the reason I don't do time controls longer than 5 days; and even those I need to be talked in to
The trick to dealing with timeouts, vacations, and long games like 14 days/move is not to think about them at all. Just worry about the games that you need to move before you next logon. If you find yourself waiting all the time, sign up for more games. If you have trouble remembering your plans, make notes on the game (program is set up just for you to make your own game notes.). There are a lot of ways that you can deal with problems in Internet chess besides asking, demanding, threatening, or crying to your opponent to help you with your impatience.
Jul 25, 2018
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#1827
I lost a game yesterday being a Queen up (and a Bishop by the end) for no real compensation. I just didn't take the threat of my opponent's 2 pieces seriously enough! One the other had I also resigned one after 2 moves. I played the Slav defence, then resigned before my opponent could make his 3rd move.
Jul 25, 2018
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#1828
chesster3145 escribió:
MindControl116 wrote:
KID_Harish escribió:
What do you think about them? What to do about them? When I am a Queen up and winning position my opponent DO NO RESIGN!
Frustrating...
1. Very childish. Your username says it all.
2. So you're a quitter and resign everytime you lose a piece for nothing? Pffff. You've clearly never seen grandmasters play .
Are you dumb? I would disprove your second point myself were there not at least 550,000 counterexamples on chessgames.com.
No, I'm not dumb, and you can't provide a counterexample to a claim which only requires a single example to be true, and there are thousands of examples for my claim.
Jul 25, 2018
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#1829
Enderman1323 escribió:
silledad wrote:
@Enderman1323. Here here!! While it may be frustrating to persons on the opposite end Every player has the right to play out their game and learn from it. Every human chess player blunders ( and can recall losing a won game as a result of an oversight/mistake etc. At best they recover and manage a draw at worst they lose and learn. In each case had their opponent resigned when it was "apparent" they were going to lose, they would not have been able to have earned the win or draw ( "stalemates by sloppy end game play not withstanding" ). This is a timeless argument and one that is perpetuated by players learning the game on both ends; however outside of the discussions and good points for not resigning made here, I will refer all to Mr. GSerper's well summarised article published on the subject on chess.com. In the end he states that the best way to end your frustration with players who don't resign is to "Learn to mate them efficiently". Chess is a contest that you are trying to win. Learn your mating patterns and end games to bring it to its quickest conclusion . If I am on the other end I will expect no less and learn from the experience. If I am on the winning end, I likewise will look to practice my end games in these scenarios. .
Oh yes. Players are legally allowed to waste their time playing on in a hopeless position. I'm also legally allowed to call you an idiot, which means that you must be an idiot. You can be losing, but have hope for a draw/win. You can also be losing and not have hope for a draw/win. Examples of playing on in the former don't prove it's reasonable in the latter. The vast majority of 1600+ rated players know when to resign, they're smart enough to see that some positions just don't have any hope.
Never resigning at a reasonably high level of play shouldn't be considered "acceptable" because the opponent should "just deal with it". You might get enjoyment out of playing out 20+ more moves in a winning position so you can find a fast mate, but not many other people do. Projecting feelings you claim to possess onto other people isn't an argument.
"Projecting feelings you claim to possess onto other people isn't an argument."
How ironic. You literally just contradicted yourself. This very claim of yours already debunks your stance. Debate over.
Jul 25, 2018
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#1830
I often resign, but in a games in a live tournaments I don't resign
LadyMisil wrote:
The trick to dealing with timeouts, vacations, and long games like 14 days/move is not to think about them at all. Just worry about the games that you need to move before you next logon. If you find yourself waiting all the time, sign up for more games. If you have trouble remembering your plans, make notes on the game (program is set up just for you to make your own game notes.). There are a lot of ways that you can deal with problems in Internet chess besides asking, demanding, threatening, or crying to your opponent to help you with your impatience.
None of the above. I rarely communicate with an opponent. (Twice in 200+ games). I'm just not temperamentally suited to play a game where the Earth has time to make another trip around the sun before it's over.
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Enderman1323 escribió:
silledad wrote:
@Enderman1323. Here here!! While it may be frustrating to persons on the opposite end Every player has the right to play out their game and learn from it. Every human chess player blunders ( and can recall losing a won game as a result of an oversight/mistake etc. At best they recover and manage a draw at worst they lose and learn. In each case had their opponent resigned when it was "apparent" they were going to lose, they would not have been able to have earned the win or draw ( "stalemates by sloppy end game play not withstanding" ). This is a timeless argument and one that is perpetuated by players learning the game on both ends; however outside of the discussions and good points for not resigning made here, I will refer all to Mr. GSerper's well summarised article published on the subject on chess.com. In the end he states that the best way to end your frustration with players who don't resign is to "Learn to mate them efficiently". Chess is a contest that you are trying to win. Learn your mating patterns and end games to bring it to its quickest conclusion . If I am on the other end I will expect no less and learn from the experience. If I am on the winning end, I likewise will look to practice my end games in these scenarios. .
Oh yes. Players are legally allowed to waste their time playing on in a hopeless position. I'm also legally allowed to call you an idiot, which means that you must be an idiot. You can be losing, but have hope for a draw/win. You can also be losing and not have hope for a draw/win. Examples of playing on in the former don't prove it's reasonable in the latter. The vast majority of 1600+ rated players know when to resign, they're smart enough to see that some positions just don't have any hope.
Never resigning at a reasonably high level of play shouldn't be considered "acceptable" because the opponent should "just deal with it". You might get enjoyment out of playing out 20+ more moves in a winning position so you can find a fast mate, but not many other people do. Projecting feelings you claim to possess onto other people isn't an argument.
"Projecting feelings you claim to possess onto other people isn't an argument."
How ironic. You literally just contradicted yourself. This very claim of yours already debunks your stance. Debate over.
LadyMisil wrote: ... There are a lot of ways that you can deal with problems in Internet chess besides asking, demanding, threatening, or crying to your opponent to help you with your impatience.
amiakr8 wrote: None of the above. I rarely communicate with an opponent. (Twice in 200+ games). I'm just not temperamentally suited to play a game where the Earth has time to make another trip around the sun before it's over.
To Amiakr8 from LadyM: My above comment was not meant for you, but I am glad that you do not harass your opponents in any way.
If I played a live chess game, real life or Internet, I would not wish to wait a day for it to end either. Playing for 24 straight hours on a single game is not to my taste, although I am betting someone out there likes marathons.
But with regular Internet chess, it is like postal chess. Then I do not mind if a game takes months or years to end. I got what I signed up for.
As for being concerned at all about any one single game? Well, everyone has better things to do. I simply make sure that I logon twice a day, more if I feel like it, and play those games that are ready for me to play. If an opponent goes on vacation, I never notice until they come back. As for taking a long time with each move, I never notice that either. I am too busy playing the games in which it is my turn to make a move.
So it is all about time management and not worrying about your opponents. And if you have an easy won game but your opponent plays on and that upsets you, you can always end the game by resigning your win. It is just a game. Nothing to worry your life about.
For people that need their opponents to resign, I suggest never playing Internet chess and playing only real life chess with good friends or at real life tournaments. Chess.com and Internet chess simply is not the place for you.
However, maybe you are one of those kind of people that like to complain. Then by all means, stay here and complain about how people do not resign. For that matter complain about grandmaster draws, bad luck, and whatever suits your fancy. This is the right place for complainers, these forums.
Elaborating was useful. Thank you for your take on things. There are considerations I hadn't thought of.
Welcome, and thank you for being considerate to your opponents. They may not appreciate it, but know that someone out there appreciates nice people.
Oh, I just remembered another reason why a smart player on this website might have for to not resign in a lost position - for manipulating their rating. With a low rating, it helps in a team match. Underrated players have better chances against their opponents of same rating. With tournaments, there might be rating restrictions. So a smart player could save up their lost positions and resign them all at once to drop their rating. I used to be on a team in which the SA came up with this idea, but that was years ago. Forgot all about it till now. So a player not resigning a lost position may have 2 good reasons not to, especially if they are a loyal team player. 1) They may suspect you of cheating and their best strategy then is to play slow and hope you get caught before the game ends (and counts) or 2) they may be using their won and lost positions to manipulate their rating.
Been there done that. Playing out games that I'm likely to lose quickly. Temporary fix.
Jul 26, 2018
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#1840
Not resigning in a daily chess game can also be costly too if you care about rating points. I've often started a game against a similarly rated opponent only for them to drop a load of rating points over the course of our game, then I lose and ship a load of rating points because they are now 200 points below me!
I probably resign too quickly. I'll resign if I'm likely to lose and I don't want to waste the time on it, or I just want it off my screen