Was Fischer mentally ill? I dunno, but I'm certain that women are born worse at chess than men. That aside, it's obvious that 1. d4 better than 1. e4.
After all, the Parham is easily refuted and totally unsound! After all, if someone as bad as Carlsen plays 1. e4, it must suck! Learn from the unbeatable of all time Kasparov, PEOPLE
Not if you continue to kick him even after he's died....
Genghiskhant, I am not saying that Fischer is in line with these examples...what I am suggesting is that these examples would seem more in line with the "mentally ill"...yet are they? Do we even consider them possibly mentally ill, or do we just classify them as Terrorists?
Concerning the case in Norway, I believe his defense was "mentally ill". Fischer's actions never came close to this. And if you are familiar with the speeches of these "terrorists"...I think there would be enough to argue "mental illness"...but no one discribes them as such...
My main arguement is that Fischer's "mental illness" is not based on any testing or professional evaluation, but mostly on what he has said.
Anders Breivik did not use mental illness as a defence. In fact, the exact opposite. He was quite clear on the fact that he was not mentally ill and did not want himself seen as such. He actively fought against that being used as a defence because it would have taken away from his own cause.
As for Fischer, the reason the comparison doesn't work is because people are claiming he was mentally ill because of his paranoid delusions and reclusive behaviour, not because he was an anti-semite.
Spouting hateful speeches doesn't mean you are mentally ill. There is a difference between 'Mad' and 'Bad'.
'You think Fischer's crazy, check out that Bin Laden guy' just doesn't work on any level.
paranoid delusions and reclusive behaviour??
why do you think you can judge his behaviour, how do you know he had paranoid delusions and what has reclusive behaviour to do with anything.
Many people have reclusive behaviour.
Not to mention that a few years ago also homosexuality was considered a mental illness and now all those people are mentally sane.
Even a friendly dog will bite you if you kick him enough .
that was a really really good sentence. by the way are you the one with the clint eastwood pic?
He was openly paranoid. It was well known.
Edit: This is going nowhere, so rather than continue I'll withdraw everything but my initial statement.
He most likely was mentally ill but, if you are a fan of his, that shouldn't take away from your enjoyment of what he did at the chessboard.
Lots of people have said or done a lot of bad things, but you don't have to like someone as a person to enjoy what they bring to their field.
He was openly paranoid. It was well known.
Edit: This is going nowhere, so rather than continue I'll withdraw everything but my initial statement.
He most likely was mentally ill but, if you are a fan of his, that shouldn't take away from your enjoyment of what he did at the chessboard.
Lots of people have said or done a lot of bad things, but you don't have to like someone as a person to enjoy what they bring to their field.
ok its going nowere, but just because you say its most likely doesnt make it most likely.
it seems the world is not free of such things, so there are many candidates for those energies to affect someone.
Don't really agree with the concept of 'energies' externally affecting people. It takes away personal responsibility and culpability. Fischer made his own choices like everyone else.
TetsuoShima, would you suggest paranoia was the sign of someone who was perfectly stable?
TetsuoShima, would you suggest paranoia was the sign of someone who was perfectly stable?
what would that have to do with fischer. just because you say he is paranoid doesnt mean he is paranoid.
Have you ever read or watched anything about the guy? It seems to be fairly widely known that he was paranoid.
Sure, just because it is in a documentary or a book doesn't make it true. However, I would be more inclined to believe it from multiple sources than from you, who has clearly done no research into it whatsoever.
it seems the world is not free of such things, so there are many candidates for those energies to affect someone.
Don't really agree with the concept of 'energies' externally affecting people. It takes away personal responsibility and culpability. Fischer made his own choices like everyone else.
if he made a choice of his own (in whatever frame of mind he was in), then he chose from what was there to choose from.
Have you ever read or watched anything about the guy? It seems to be fairly widely known that he was paranoid.
Sure, just because it is in a documentary or a book doesn't make it true. However, I would be more inclined to believe it from multiple sources than from you, who has clearly done no research into it whatsoever.
well it works the other way around too, if you substract his competition like kasparov. Like most people who call paranoid are just some mediocre people, not to mention that psychologie is not a really a science that can be proven. I believe rather the winner, then some mediocre people who definetly have an incentive to call him paranoid, because its obvious no1 wants to be mediocre and likes to talk greater people bad.
Anyway its ok you have you standpoint and i have mine. you know the masses said the world was flat, galileo said it was round, who do you think was right?
the masses thought you couldnt sail around the earth, you would get into some strange monsterland. A few believed it was possible, who was right?
I mean i dont want to get all defensive, but in history the masses were seldom on the correct side of the end.
those that sailed over the edge of the world were very hard done by.
People knew the earth was spherical around 1200 years before Galileo was born.
Prime example of why this is pointless.
People knew the earth was spherical around 1200 years before Galileo was born.
Prime example of why this is pointless.
ok then we both agree it was wrong to say most likely.
People knew the earth was spherical around 1200 years before Galileo was born.
Prime example of why this is pointless.
No it isn't!!!!!!!! 
Reminds me of some of the reactions to Fischer's death.
“The chess world has truly lost a beloved Jew-hating, vitriol-spewing, anti-American blowhard.”
“Even the greats can’t come up with a Semi-Tarrasch Defense for kidney failure.”
TetsuoShima wrote:
Genghiskhant wrote:
People knew the earth was spherical around 1200 years before Galileo was born.
Prime example of why this is pointless.
ok then we both agree it was wrong to say most likely.
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Given that I'm pretty sure you're 11 years old, sure why not. You have this one. It clearly means a lot to you.
Yeah, also others believed that Fischer doesn't have mental illness, thus trying to protect his reputation though he really acts like a mentally ill person. I don't see the difference though even if he is ill or not.
right becoming world champion is the mark of a mentally ill and a mediocre person talking a world champion bad is the sign of mentally healthy.
anyway this is my last post here, its fruitless haters will always hate.
Did you ever read "A beautiful Mind"? John Nash was nuttier than a fruit cake, but was a huge math genius. They say insanity is more common amoung geniuses than average people.
lol
stay behind that fence!