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WHAT MAKES A GREAT CHESS PLAYER ?
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Gentlemanly conduct at all times.
MsJean wrote: To a non player , you might think, how hard could it be? What are the things that set a great chess player apart from an average chess player.
A really great player has the nerves for chess he or she can cope well with shock highwire stress and pressure under fire that you're average player can't.
Low_Moral_Fibre wrote:
Gentlemanly conduct at all times.
I think some of the greatest players have proved time and again, that this isn't necessary.
O.C.D and time! and lots of coffee
Sep 9, 2011
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Low_Moral_Fibre wrote:
Gentlemanly conduct at all times.
On this site please lol
Sep 9, 2011
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alec39 wrote:
Canada you are right on the mark !
MsJean wrote: To a non player , you might think, how hard could it be? What are the things that set a great chess player apart from an average chess player.
A really great player has the nerves for chess he or she can cope well with shock highwire stress and pressure under fire that you're average player can't.
According to this study that is published in
stress is a major factor that chess players handle well ...Ill explain the abstract when I get a minute more...
Abstract
We have studied the physiological consequences of the tension caused by playing chess in 20 male chess players, by following heart rate, heart rate variability, and respiratory variables. We observed significant increase in the heart rate (75-86 beats/min), in the ratio low frequency (LF)/high frequency (HF) of heart rate variability (1.3-3.0) and also a decrease in mean heart rate variability with no changes in HF throughout the game. These results suggest a stimulation of the sympathetic nervous system with no changes in the parasympathetic system. The respiratory exchange ratio was rather elevated (over 0.89) at the start and significantly decreased during the game (0.75 at the end), indicating that energy expenditure progressively switched from carbohydrate to lipid oxidation. The changes in substrate oxidation and the sympathetic system seem to be due to high cognitive demands and bring new insight into adaptations to mental strain.
Sep 9, 2011
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Oh corrijean you cute thing how is hubby? Yes I really thought this was a most facinating article. Let me attempt to explain what it says...
Is there a doctor in the house LOL
They found 20 smokin hot guys that all play chess and put them in a room together.
Be still my heart...he he...
Then they monitored their vital signs for changes and found that breathing and heart rate were elevated at the start of the games. ( It usually is 
)
This is the sympathetic nervous sytems response to being stimulated. A temporary elevation meant to meet the immediate demands of the situation
Glucose is readily burned to fuel the immediate need and does in this situation.
In a fight or flight situation the sympathetic nervous system would calm down and all would return to normal.
In this Chess Game situation the stress is over a sustained or longer period of time. The body must be sustained throughout the game with mental acuity. The smart body then gos to its long term storage...Lipids...and begins to burn this fuel. Lipids are longer term energy. A valuable resource that is always used in the end. It will sustain the energy longer the sugar/glucose.
More importantly the body does it without another stress reaction. It just switches over to the lipids fuel and keeps on playing. The heart rate does not even go back up...How sweet it is ...
Sep 9, 2011
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Andy_18 
yep but you will crash hard...were you one of those 20 smokin hot guys ! he he
GersFan1982 
lol did you see your avatar man of emotions he he
To be a great chess player ms
jeans should be washed everyday...
Sep 9, 2011
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#154
yourmindillsion wrote:
i guess there is a doctor in the house
Is that you 
what do you think of this study
stress is a major factor that chess players handle well ...Ill explain the abstract when I get a minute more...
Abstract
We have studied the physiological consequences of the tension caused by playing chess in 20 male chess players, by following heart rate, heart rate variability, and respiratory variables. We observed significant increase in the heart rate (75-86 beats/min), in the ratio low frequency (LF)/high frequency (HF) of heart rate variability (1.3-3.0) and also a decrease in mean heart rate variability with no changes in HF throughout the game. These results suggest a stimulation of the sympathetic nervous system with no changes in the parasympathetic system. The respiratory exchange ratio was rather elevated (over 0.89) at the start and significantly decreased during the game (0.75 at the end), indicating that energy expenditure progressively switched from carbohydrate to lipid oxidation. The changes in substrate oxidation and the sympathetic system seem to be due to high cognitive demands and bring new insight into adaptations to mental strain.
But,the same test results would probably have been obtained if it were Monopoly.
I think TheGrobe said it pretty well. However, im not sure that he's 100% correct. Pattern recognition is a must. But, logic is still more important. Without logic(if,then,and,else) the recognition of a given pattern is meaningless. The truth is,that if you intend to win a game as a beginner. Then you're going to need a plan before the game begins. Heuristics only come into play with experience.
"Chess is infinite: There are 400 different positions after each player makes one move apiece. There are 72,084 positions after two moves apiece. There are 9+ million positions after three moves apiece. There are 288+ billion different possible positions after four moves apiece. There are more 40-move games on Level-1 than the number of electrons in our universe. There are more game-trees of Chess than the number of galaxies (100+ billion), and more openings, defenses, gambits, etc. than the number of quarks in our universe!"
What isnt mentioned here(apart from the fact that infinite has no fixed value) is that 90% of these are positions you dont want to find your self in.
MsJean wrote:
Glucose is readily burned to fuel the immediate need and does in this situation.
In a fight or flight situation the sympathetic nervous system would calm down and all would return to normal.
In this Chess Game situation the stress is over a sustained or longer period of time. The body must be sustained throughout the game with mental acuity. The smart body then gos to its long term storage...Lipids...and begins to burn this fuel. Lipids are longer term energy. A valuable resource that is always used in the end. It will sustain the energy longer the sugar/glucose.
Good lecture, Nurse How about orange juice during a chess game? Is it only placebo effect (just because Carlsen does it)?
Being great at chess always helps.
love /passion/drive/perserverance/find-understand-develop ways to understand., absorb the past., find your own voice.,
Sep 10, 2011
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MsJean wrote:
yourmindillsion wrote:
i guess there is a doctor in the house
Is that you what do you think of this study
stress is a major factor that chess players handle well ...Ill explain the abstract when I get a minute more...
Abstract
We have studied the physiological consequences of the tension caused by playing chess in 20 male chess players, by following heart rate, heart rate variability, and respiratory variables. We observed significant increase in the heart rate (75-86 beats/min), in the ratio low frequency (LF)/high frequency (HF) of heart rate variability (1.3-3.0) and also a decrease in mean heart rate variability with no changes in HF throughout the game. These results suggest a stimulation of the sympathetic nervous system with no changes in the parasympathetic system. The respiratory exchange ratio was rather elevated (over 0.89) at the start and significantly decreased during the game (0.75 at the end), indicating that energy expenditure progressively switched from carbohydrate to lipid oxidation. The changes in substrate oxidation and the sympathetic system seem to be due to high cognitive demands and bring new insight into adaptations to mental strain.
no i was just kidding 
but its quit intresting your topic
barely :) whats your score msjean?
70