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who do you think is the best chess player of all time?

  • #401
    maddyshiva wrote:

    Anand-in his peak

    When was that, if I may ask? Before Kasparov retired Anand was never near Kasparov and scored 3-16 in classical games against him (15-1 to Kasparov after a couple of early losses in the beginning of the 1990s). Then Carlsen has been the clearly stronger of the two the last 7-8 years. That leaves maybe 2007-08, and even during those years Carlsen was second behind Anand in Linares both times in spite of still being 16-17 and far from top ten.

  • #402

    fabel,Anand is not in his prime anymore.To add to that,Anand had lots of great chess players in his prime-Kasparov,Karpov and many to count..Just due to this reason,we cannot forget Anand.

    Take a look at Magnus Carlsen-he is great now only because he has no tough opponents-Anand,Kasparov,Vassily etc. are fading away due to old age.Magnus beating Anand and Magnus coming second in Linares was when Magnus was young,whereas Anand was already getting old.Also,Anand losing to Magnus has nothing to do with play but only with age-Magnus is young and has the advantage,Anand is old,fading and has the disadvantage.

    Not only that,Anand is a great universal player,he can change his playstyle accordingly,also he knows what to do to win.

    It is a shame he has gotten older now and is blundering,but that happens to all chess players.

    Had a player like Kasparov been born and now in the same age group as Magnus,it would be a heated battle.Magnus just does not have any good opponents as of now.

    Also,Anand is an Indian wink.png

    P.S. English is not my first language so my wording sucks.

  • #403

    I trust Ivanchuk's judgement on this one. He thinks Capablanca, Fischer and Kasparov are the strongest ever, considering both their absolute strength, and how they evolved chess during their reign. Personally I'd say it's a toss up between Fischer and Kasparov, though Capablanca would probably be their equal if born in a later age.

  • #404

    How did Fischer evolve chess during his reign? He didn't play a single game.

  • #405

    You can be sure that after defeating US champion Reshewski at 14 of age and becoming the youngest champion ever, Fischer reign begun. Aged 23, Fischer would win every match or tournament he completed for the rest of his life (Wikipedia). Also continued by 11-0 in US championship of 1963/1964 and 6-0 against Taimanow also 6-0 against Larsen before winning the World chess Crown.

  • #406

    Bobby Ficsher

  • #407
    mcris wrote:

    You can be sure that after defeating US champion Reshewski at 14 of age and becoming the youngest champion ever, Fischer reign begun.

    So Tal, Petrosian and Spassky never even reigned as World Champions, since Fischer did it already from 1957 by failing to finish top three in the Candidates 1959 and 1962?

  • #408

    He defeated them all.

  • #409

    Zurab Azmaiparashvili is the best player.

  • #410

    Aaron Nimzowistch

  • #411

    ... is the good player

  • #412
  • #413

    I dont know..."Of all time" hasnt happened yet.

  • #414

    Obviously, a computer program is now the 'greatest chess player of all time'!

  • #415

    Kasparov and Carlsen are the two best human players of all time. I don't think Carlsen has peaked yet.

  • #416

    At his best, Ivanchuk is incredible. He's beaten Kasparov, Carlsen, Kramnik, Anand and all the other top players of the last 30 years.

     

    At his worst, he can lose on time to anyone.

     

    Perhaps Ivanchuk, when he feels absolutely no pressure, is the best ever.

     

    But when there's pressure to perform, Kasparov's done the best. He faced several must-win situations and almost always came through with a memorable victory.

  • #417
    SmyslovFan wrote:

    Kasparov and Carlsen are the two best human players of all time. I don't think Carlsen has peaked yet.

    Carlsen is going down.

  • #418

    "But when there's pressure to perform, Kasparov's done the best. He faced several must-win situations and almost always came through with a memorable victory"

    That first match against Karpov was also quite impressive after the horrible start. Not many players could face Karpov at his peak 21 games in a row, where one mistake would lose you the match, and not only avoid losses but score three wins.

  • #419

    Elvis Presley, great singer, lousy chess player.

  • #420

    Bobby Fischer or Jose Raul Capablanca

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