Who played the shortest games?

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And a low rated player could quote the historian. Wink So, rating is irrelevant in this matter.

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cigoL wrote:
goldendog wrote:
 

When you're judging the character of games, whether they seem real or composed for example, one's strength indeed makes a difference. Comparing the natures of games played centuries apart would require some chess strength too, it seems to me, to make any meaningful insights unless the proposition is quite simplistic.

There shouldn't be any confusion.


It's a historians job to determine this. He could do that without even knowing the rules of chess. 


He'd then have to be referring to the opinion of others with chess expertise and not pretending to any such insights on his own. Ergo, not making the comparison himself.

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But of course! 

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cigoL wrote:

And a low rated player could quote the historian.  So, rating is irrelevant in this matter.


Not irrelevant in the example in question here, as jetfighter13 seemed to be assuming the expertise to make the comparisons he posited.

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no, I was stating a matter of personal belief

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jetfighter13 wrote:

no, I was stating a matter of personal belief


Scant difference, if any.

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jetfighter13 wrote:

no, I was stating a matter of personal belief


 But, you must ask yourself, "Why would I state this particular personal belief in a conversation populated by folks with vastly more knowledge about the subject being discussed?"

I like to argue here as much as the next guy, but I steer clear of chess.

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yes bp stay away from chess just stick with the baseball Wink

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I chose to argue the point because I feel that that many games couldnt be composed, i mean a 50 some odd mover where all the moves look good, is hard to believe it was composed, the Mate in 8 with the queens sac, maybe, but the others dont look like they were composed, partialy because I would play some of those moves

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bigpoison wrote:

I like to argue here as much as the next guy, but I steer clear of cheese.


This makes no sense.

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that was a protest, fischer also lost a game as white where he didnt make a move at all

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jetfighter13 wrote:

I chose to argue the point because I feel that that many games couldnt be composed, i mean a 50 some odd mover where all the moves look good, is hard to believe it was composed, the Mate in 8 with the queens sac, maybe, but the others dont look like they were composed, partialy because I would play some of those moves


 A move that looks good to you or me isn't sayin' much.

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well, I doubt they would care about games that were fabricated

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bigpoison wrote:

 A move that looks good to you or me isn't sayin' much.


Might as well lay a decapitated chicken by the board and light a candle.

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goldendog wrote:
bigpoison wrote:

 A move that looks good to you or me isn't sayin' much.


Might as well lay a decapitated chicken by the board and light a candle.


 You really miss Reb, don't ya'?

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He's in a better place now (bows head).

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Steve212000 wrote:

Alekhine used to make up moves when he published his games,so he would look better.


 well thats different, Back when greco was around, it was pretty much garunteed that he was the best. 

now about that five queen Game...

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goldendog wrote:

He's in a better place now (bows head).


 Alabama?

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Washington State?