Why are most professional chess players not normal.

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I'm not a professional of any kind, but life has taught me this:

Being normal is overrated.

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DarknisMetalDragon wrote:

I don't mean all pro players. If you are one of them, don't be offended as I only mean some of these people. I don't know how normal you are or aren't.

Name 3 pro players you know personally.

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Most people who are truly exceptional in some discipline (e.g., have some skill at the 1 in 10,000 level, which they have trained for many years) are not normal -- regardless of whether it is chess, or origami, or fencing, or ballet, or playing the cello, or cooking, or dog training, ...

There are many reasons for this, but it would help if you were more explicit about the particular ways in which the chess players you have in mind are not normal and why you believe they are not.

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waffllemaster wrote:
DarknisMetalDragon wrote:

I don't mean all pro players. If you are one of them, don't be offended as I only mean some of these people. I don't know how normal you are or aren't.

Name 3 pro players you know personally.

None if you meant meeting anyone.

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DarknisMetalDragon wrote:
waffllemaster wrote:
DarknisMetalDragon wrote:

I don't mean all pro players. If you are one of them, don't be offended as I only mean some of these people. I don't know how normal you are or aren't.

Name 3 pro players you know personally.

None if you meant meeting anyone.

Ok.  I mostly asked because of the part I highlighted above combined with the title implies you know most professional players personally Tongue Out

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waffllemaster wrote:
DarknisMetalDragon wrote:
waffllemaster wrote:
DarknisMetalDragon wrote:

I don't mean all pro players. If you are one of them, don't be offended as I only mean some of these people. I don't know how normal you are or aren't.

Name 3 pro players you know personally.

None if you meant meeting anyone.

Ok.  I mostly asked because of the part I highlighted above combined with the title implies you know most professional players personally

I was just making sure no gm, im, or fm felt offended. Kasparov is an example of a normal player.

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More directly then.

Title:  Assumes most pros are not normal.

First post:  Admits the assumption is baseless.

Also

DarknisMetalDragon wrote:

 Kasparov is an example of a normal player.

I disagree Tongue Out

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I know plenty 2300 elo up players and without exception they are ok.

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Normally when you see somebody looking at one thing for a long time and is very good at doing that, you wouldn't consider normal either.LOL

Avatar of Lou-for-you

Well that makes any researcher, software developer, dentist, shopkeeper, burger baker, assembly worker abnormal...

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"There is nothing abnormal about chessplayers being abnormal.  This is normal."

                                                                     -Vladymir Nabakov

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Being normal is a dangerous business. It means fitting in, it is a socially constructed idea of how should one act, if that act is generally socially acceptable, then you are ok, otherwise you are not ok.

Over the years happiness has become a norm. So that psychiatry overdiagnoses everyday life problems and medicates people for everything. If you are unhappy for a loss and grieving? BAM! You are depressed. Nothing is any longer recognised as 'normal'. Anything we don't like we use science and techonology to get rid of. And every once in a while we try to get rid of whole races of people. And of course these a-holes always have a good 'reason'. 

So this definition of normal is what pleases peoples sensibility. If doesn't sit well with people, there is something wrong with them. 

Of course there are extreme cases, but it is the problem of the chicken and egg. Does playing chess makes you abnormal or the other way around.

Our society is so tied up with normal that there is literally no place for humans. 

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Define normalSmile

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Here's why:

You can't soar high over the mountaintops with the eagles if you're down on the ground scratchin' with the chickens.

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+1

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Nice

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DarknisMetalDragon wrote:
waffllemaster wrote:
DarknisMetalDragon wrote:
waffllemaster wrote:
DarknisMetalDragon wrote:

I don't mean all pro players. If you are one of them, don't be offended as I only mean some of these people. I don't know how normal you are or aren't.

Name 3 pro players you know personally.

None if you meant meeting anyone.

Ok.  I mostly asked because of the part I highlighted above combined with the title implies you know most professional players personally

I was just making sure no gm, im, or fm felt offended. Kasparov is an example of a normal player.

well fine than

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Most chess professionals are not normal because most people are not chess professionals.

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They are normal in their kind.