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How much a Queen + Knight + Camel compound would worth?

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Lucas1009991 wrote:

How much a Queen + Knight + Camel compound would worth?

Amazon has no meaningful advantage over separated Q+N. I would guess other saturation pieces have a similar issue I call it 14.5-15. Stronger than an Amazon but probably not wildly stronger.

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pds314 wrote:
Lucas1009991 wrote:

How much a Queen + Knight + Camel compound would worth?

Amazon has no meaningful advantage over separated Q+N. I would guess other saturation pieces have a similar issue I call it 14.5-15. Stronger than an Amazon but probably not wildly stronger.

Okay

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Regarding Xiangqi, which's values you seem to've copied from Xiangqi, the points operate on a different scale, the chariot which is the same as a rook has a value of 9, so that gives you a value of 2.5, in a chess scale. Basically we have a scale of chess points being equal to 1 4/5 xiangqi points, so if we do the math, the catapult has a value of like 2.5.

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With me:

Chancellor has 8

Archbishop has 7

Amazon has 12

General has 6

Camel has 3

Grasshopper has 2

Wildebeest has 6

Ferz has 2

Wazir has 2

Alfil has 2

Dabbaba has 2

Alibbaba has 4

Knight rider has 6

Camel rider has 6

Alfil rider has 4

Dabbaba rider has 4

Alibbaba rider has 7

Xiangqi Horse has 2

Dragon bishop has 6

Berolina pawn, Solider, Stone general, Sergeant has 1

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Alibaba - 5

Amazon - 12

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Tiger (knight + alibaba) - 8

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A Xiangqi horse HAS to be worth 2, it's just a knight but worse.

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ChessCheese566 wrote:

A Xiangqi horse HAS to be worth 2, it's just a knight but worse.

Not neccesarily.

It means it's worth less than a knight, but not by how much.

Also I think some estimates put a knight at 3.5 on a standard chess board. If that's a case maybe a Xiangqi horse is worth 3.0.

Although of course actual Xiangqi is played on a 9×10 board, which makes the knight worse.

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V_Awful_Chess schreef:

Not neccesarily.

It means it's worth less than a knight, but not by how much.

Also I think some estimates put a knight at on a standard chess board. If that's a case maybe a Xiangqi horse is worth .

Although of course actual Xiangqi is played on a 9×10 board, which makes the knight worse.

In my computer tests replacing one Knight by two Xiangqi Horses in the FIDE setup did not result in an advantage for either side. So the Horse is worth almost exactly half a Knight.

This makes sense: all moves of the Horse are blockable on one square, and during large part of the middle-game (where most games are decided) there is a 50% chance a square will occupied, and the move thus blocked. So on average the Horse will just have half the number of moves a Knight would have.

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Amazon is 12 points

Cancalor is 8 points

Arcbishop is 5 points

Diddaip is 2 points

Afil is 3 points

Camel is 3 points

Nightrider is 5 points

Duck is 7 points

Beroioona pawn is 1 or 2 points

Range horse is 5 points

Older pawn is 0 points

Superpawn is 2 points