This is if we trade bishops leaving the rooks
Martin vs The world Analysis thread
Sort:
I took a look at Bf7, and I really like it! In fact I like the whole philosophy of its approach.
The approach is one of avoid "strength against strength", and exert force on weaknesses, instead.
So from the current position, with the move of Bf7 played next, then if White plays Rd6, we counter with Rc8.
We just keep playing "mouse and cat" with him, and the positions seem to lend themselves to the philosophy. If a pawn tries to encroach on our pawns, that pawn puts itself in danger first, available for capture, which usually translates into the jeopardized move being considered unplayable. And so we tighten things up on the board by using the board's inherent impediments, so much so, that Martin grows weary because he can't get anything to come together, and he eventually accepts a draw outcome.
My vote for our current move is Bf7.
I like the move. Will it produce a Win?
I don't know, but it is a strong move.
Why is it strong?
Because it allows our Rook not to be tied down to defending a pawn.
I'm from the Karpov school of thought, that every pawn move weakens a weak position further.
So, I like not making unnecessary pawn moves, especially if they are reactionary.
Two pawns in a horizontal line, especially when each can move two-steps forward, which complicates things, have an inherent strength. Martin cannot rely on what he thinks will take place.
Then too, if he's going to win, then let it be a tough battle every step of the way, from here on in.
Ry, rf8 bxh7 rh8 bxe6 rxh2 still loses a pawn. Though actually maybe there are chances... both sides have an active rook. Bf7 seems ok, I'm gonna analyse it.
Well here's some of the lines for Bf7
The problem is we can't really attack the weak pawn on c4 but white can attack e6
Hi Yolo, so happy to have you helping!
No, no, no…
2. … Rc5 is the move!
And look at all the unknowns for Martin, and remember he's just one "lonely" person.
We have the whole world to dig deep with; we're a Deep Blue, of sorts.
Best,
Bob
Ok. If Rc5 then Bxe6 needs analysis.
If 3.Bxe6 Bxe6 4.Rxe6 Rxc4 5.... martin can either play defensive with Rd6 or grab pawns with Re2 however subjecting his king to checks and giving us an active rook... interesting.
I think you meant that final Re2 to be Re7, for him to grab pawns, our pawns, idle as pairs on rank 7.
I was thinking we ignore his pawns and bring our Rook to the same rank as his Rook, and he'll test our resolve, trying to "shake" our Rook, but we just match his Rook in those few ranks until he takes our Rook. That brings our King one square closer to his remaining e pawn. (or he does the Rd6 thing) So he does the Rd6…
Just showing how careful play may be rewarding. There may be things I overlooked, however.
Agreed
Current Position (Black to Move)
No surprises here, from Martin.
"Y’know, that was the… time I was most frightened.
Waitin’ for my turn."
Edit (11:08 EDT 08/14/19): Adding the below stuff.
(to avoid too many posts in a row syndrome)
Well, let's see… just for the fun of it… and it happens to be more fun than ever.
Why?
Now, as of today, when you click on the Insert chess game or diagram icon, and once you're doing Setup, a new feature is in place that makes me smile like a ray of sunshine.
But you have remember to click on the piece at the end to turn it off, before going into Moves.
Rc8 is best i think
Rc8 is the most logical move
This may be interesting.
Edit: 11:02AM EDT 08/15/19
No, this falls apart after the Bishops trade. Martin protects the passed pawn, and would bring his King over to our left and he'll find a way to undermine us. So, if he tries to trade Bishops, we play g6.
And we just muddle through to the end (Draw), or bitter end. (Loss)
No way is this a draw. Martin fights it to the end on the right and when it looks like we have nowhere to move, you look to the left, and we have to make a pawn move… a pawn move for a certain Loss.
Current Position (Black to Move)
We'll have to look at this.
Martin spent some time deciding this move.
“I’ll never put on a lifejacket again.”
While playing with the Current Position yesterday, the first move I looked at was g5!
At the same time I tried to understand Martin's reasoning behind Bb3. I concluded that he moved there because he couldn't stomach blocking his f2 pawn with some other attack. Essentially, both our Drunken Bishops have been neutered since they're both prisoners of their own making.
Here's what I see going forward:
So, my vote is 1. … Rc6, to be followed with 2. … bxc6 if the chance comes up.
Ry, I hurry the analyses with the diagrams because they take too long. This is because the overall forum, here on Chess dot com, has not enabled variant moves to be made yet, so a DB move that I would like to play, to make a point, I avoid because it means typing a lot more, rather than just demonstrating the move on a diagram.
I'm new to diagrams and commenting within them. So, if I'm incorrect on them, accept my apologies.
When I put a diagram up for us to look at, it is a suggestion of things to come. It's better to offer something then to do nothing. I shouldn't bother, really.
We will lose this game if Martin just makes easy-to-uncover, basic moves. (They're all over the place. It's been this way for the longest time.)
If, just once, I were to see a Draw reveal itself, I would be all over it. Haven't seen one yet.
And I haven't seen Martin make an outright blunder. I've seen him seemingly misstep, but then he parlays it into something good.
I still think the main line forward is 1. … g5! 2. g3 Rc5 3. f4 gxf4 4. gxf4 Rc8
However, there will probably be something that will ruin things for us. Just a hunch.
Let me diagram all of this, since no DB moves were involved.
This is the ending for one of the lines... the one where if we play kd8 and he plays bishop b7 trading everything