So castling does not reset the 50 move rule in regular chess? But technically it should though, right?
What is the best chess variant ?
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Pokshtya wrote:
100-move rule for draws is too much for 80 squares.
There's an endgame with only 4 pieces that takes over 70 moves to win. It should not be declared a draw if there's a definite way to win. The longest queen + pawn vs queen ending takes 98 moves to push the pawn for the first time. So the counter must be 100 moves to win that endgame. 100 moves is perfectly acceptable and logically motivated for Trice's Chess.
T-jankins9522 wrote:
Does shogi count as a variant
Chess is a variant of Shatranj. Shogi is a variant of Shatranj. Shatranj is a variant of Chaturanga. So all chess variants are essentially Chaturanga variants. Well, let's count Shogi as a variant but not a chess variant.
Gorgon_Slayer wrote:
Pokshtya wrote:
100-move rule for draws is too much for 80 squares.
There's an endgame with only 4 pieces that takes over 70 moves to win. It should not be declared a draw if there's a definite way to win. The longest queen + pawn vs queen ending takes 98 moves to push the pawn for the first time. So the counter must be 100 moves to win that endgame. 100 moves is perfectly acceptable and logically motivated for Trice's Chess.
I like their blue and white boards better
Pokshtya wrote:
100-move rule for draws is too much for 80 squares.
No it’s just about perfect.
What do you mean perfect?
Mate in 269?
2v2 is really fun when you have friends to play with. Try it here: https://www.relaychess.com/
Pokshtya wrote:
T-jankins9522 wrote:
Does shogi count as a variant
Chess is a variant of Shatranj. Shogi is a variant of Shatranj. Shatranj is a variant of Chaturanga. So all chess variants are essentially Chaturanga variants. Well, let's count Shogi as a variant but not a chess variant.
Correct.
Chaturanga > Western chess
Chaturanga > Chinese chess.
Variants are usually descendants of Western chess.
jean-louiscazaux wrote:
There is no answer to question like this "what is the best chess variant". It depends of course of who is answering. Why one opinion would be better than another one?
Simplicity and the genes of chess.
The best variation of chess is Chinese chess. Better than Western chess.
It retains the simplicity of 32 pieces. It retains the simplicity of Chaturanga rules.
Western chess. It kept the simplicity of 32 pieces. It expanded the Elephant and Vizier.
And everything is balanced.
Bishops are balanced by Knights.
Rooks are balanced by Bishop. (Inside 3x3, they are equal).
Queen is balanced by Knight (they are complementary).
Queen is balanced by Rook and Bishop.
Queen is balanced by Pawn. A Pawn can become Queen.
King is balanced by Queen.
Half of the space is occupied, half of the space is unoccupied.
Balance and simplicity is the measure of excellence.
long_quach wrote:
Balance and simplicity is the measure of excellence.
Chinese chess.
Simple. Still 32 pieces.
Balance.
The maniple pawn formation. Half open and half close.
2 Guards, like 2 shoulders protecting the head, the Philly Shell in boxing.
Knight and Cannon are balanced.
Rook and Cannon are balanced. A Cannon moves directly like a Rook, but captures indirectly. "Direct and indirect in infinite combinations." Sun Tzu, The Art of War.
The Knight and the Elephant are balanced. 2 squares diagonally is the longest distance for the Knight, the shortest distance for the Elephant.
The Elephant and the Advisor. One is shoulders the other is boxing blocks.
Pawn and Rook are balanced. A Pawn is a Mini-Me Rook once it crosses the border.
Offensive pieces are balanced by defensive pieces.
Elephant and Vizier still follow the rules of Chaturanga.
Simplicity and balance.
I'm not sure
Pokshtya wrote:
What do you mean perfect?
Mate in 269?
The forced checkmate in 268 moves has already been published. The mate in 269 is one move away from that position, and the losing side cannot avoid it due to the check. Therefore the mate in 269 can play into the perfectly computed 5-piece tablebase position.
Gotta say Gothic still the best
Letchworthshire wrote:
Gotta say Gothic still the best
I'm happy for you.
In fact, everything is very, very relative... The very formulation of the question “What is the best chess variant?” pretty stupid.
I know a guy who has played only Ladder Chess all his life and still thinks this chess variant is still the best...
Pokshtya wrote:
Letchworthshire wrote:
Gotta say Gothic still the best
I'm happy for you.
In fact, everything is very, very relative... The very formulation of the question “What is the best chess variant?” pretty stupid.
I know a guy who has played only Ladder Chess all his life and still thinks this chess variant is still the best...
Bobby Fischer played Gothic Chess.
Susan Polgar too.
Newspapers talked about Fischer wanting to play Karpov back in 2006. The match was underway but Fischer died.
https://nypost.com/2006/10/29/bobby-tolya-maybe-game-for-gothic/
If three world champions are interested (Fischer, Karpov, Polgar) I think that says a lot.
I hope you understand the difference between 'showing interest' and 'playing all the time'.
Once upon a time, I showed interest in ice cream and now I eat it regularly.
See, I tried it - I liked it - I use it.
I don’t think Karpov and Polgar still remember Gothic Chess and play it regularly.
I have nothing against Gothic Chess. Each chess variant has its own beauty and charm.
Pokshtya wrote:
I hope you understand the difference between 'showing interest' and 'playing all the time'.
Once upon a time, I showed interest in ice cream and now I eat it regularly.
See, I tried it - I liked it - I use it.
I don’t think Karpov and Polgar still remember Gothic Chess and play it regularly.
I have nothing against Gothic Chess. Each chess variant has its own beauty and charm.
It’s funny how people who know nothing about the game are so “certain” who does and does not play it. Your speculation is without merit. Meanwhile here is an interesting feature of the game.
100-move rule for draws is too much for 80 squares.