7R. No question about it.
7 rook vs. 3 Q
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ChaoChinKun wrote:
7R. No question about it.
What I thought, but White has a more cramped position. All Black has to do is shunt his queen(s) back and forth, and The rooks won't ever break through the black pawns.
neo-metacrash wrote:
ChaoChinKun wrote:
7R. No question about it.
What I thought, but White has a more cramped position. All Black has to do is shunt his queen(s) back and forth, and The rooks won't ever break through the black pawns.
If I just put all the rooks along a file, I'd get that pawn. Not so for the queens.
It looks drawn. With the pawns on the board, the queens need to keep the position closed, because any opening will lead to a direct loss. 7R>3Q but the 3 Q can do well in a semi-open game where half the rooks are cut off.
Grandmasta23 wrote:
can u castle
Yes, as white.
Maybe 6R+1Q vs. 4Q would be better.
metacrash, why did you make a new account? why are you not using your old one?
What is less well known, and more surprising, is that when you replace the Rooks by Knights (i.e. 7N vs 3Q), the position is utterly won for the Knights. Most engines evaluate the position as +8 for the Queens, however, and it is funny to see them adjust their evaluation from +8 to -11 as the game progresses.
jrzmath99 wrote:
Maybe 6R+1Q vs. 4Q would be better.
metacrash, why did you make a new account? why are you not using your old one?
My brain was acting stupid. I wanted to clear all my ratings but I forgot there was a "clear progress" button. XD
How About this position?
Well, I don't know. Bishops are not cooperating as well as Knights, (the same-colored ones obstruct each other badly) and 7B vs 3Q is an easy win for the Queens. Not sure how well Bishops copoerate with Knights, though. Perhaps I should try this one day with an engine. The engine that can be downloaded from http://hgm.nubati.net/QN.exe is particularly good at this sort of thing (for instance, it can beat the top engine Stockfish even with 6 Knights against 3 Queens), because it values N and B at 5 to make it avoid Q-vs-2-minors trades. (This is a disaster in the presence of Rooks, of course.)
Note that many top engines cannot handle 7 Knights in the presence of all Pawns. So to get them to play something like this, it is better to leave only 3 Pawns as a King shield. You would have to re-arrange the pieces such that they cannot imediately be captured in the opening position, though.
New variation:
Now my questions,
1) Who has the advantage?
2) Do you think this is fair?