From which rating a player can start streaming?

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drmrboss wrote:
smiley74 wrote:

 

shnitez wrote:

 

but anyone can do a streamer 

 

shnitez wrote: but anyone can do a streamer 

 

Oh yeah, the truth is that "if u were a bad player and not a hot chick, u wont get more than 5 viewers in live stream". Double think about it.

 

It's better to have 5 genuine viewers viewers than a thousand beta tippers.

Abhi_Sri

impressive

2Late4Work

Kiwi_Chris wrote:

There was a person on Twitch who was live streaming his chess progress from learning the game and improving and commenting. Sorry I cannot remember his name. He was young and picked up the game very quick, playing blitz games. I think he had a 1300+ rating after only a few months of playing. You MUST be entertaining and if you are going to do it, you must dedicate a couple of hours a day every day at the same time of day and be prepared to suck over and over again as you learn and improve. I personally don't know how anybody can talk and play at the same time but go for it and have fun. grin.png

I guess you mean MyTeacherSam. He has a big talent for the game. But too "american wannabe", so I found him annoying.

lostpawn247

I'd say that you either need to be credible, entertaining, or have a unique theme.  Being entertaining is definitely the most important thing to focus on (It's not fun to watch paint dry).  Other than that, getting people to want to watch your streams comes down to either being credible enough that people feel that they can learn something from you or you put out content that is unique enough that people are interested enough to overlook a perceived lack of credibility to want to watch you.

artyomkalinins2011
What?
Marcyful

There is no rating requirement to be a chess streamer. One could literally be a 500 rated player who entertains hundreds or even thousands of people with their hilariously awful games filled to the brim with blunders and missed wins that make zero sense whatsoever.

drmrboss
Ginarook wrote:

Yes, I watch 2400+ and 1100 streamers,all are very enjoyable

For entertainment purpose, it may be the same to you.

For people watching for learning, it doesnt make sense on watching 1100 streamer unless you are a total beginner.

Marcyful

What's wheel chess?

NolsterbuckrXYZ

It literally doesn't matter. Streamers play chess regardless of elo.

Marcyful
Ginarook wrote:
Marcyful wrote:

What's wheel chess?

Its where the streamer has a wheel on his screen with everyone who wants to play's name on it.

We all play against another streamers team, or one of us.

Before each move, the streamer spins the wheel, and the person whose name comes up has to make the next move.

Best fun ever

That sounds like a blast to play. Which streamer are you following?

drmrboss
Ginarook wrote:
drmrboss wrote:
Ginarook wrote:

Yes, I watch 2400+ and 1100 streamers,all are very enjoyable

For entertainment purpose, it may be the same to you.

For people watching for learning, it doesnt make sense on watching 1100 streamer unless you are a total beginner.

Sorry but I don't think that's right.

Some lower rated streamers play wheel chess, which is educational for everyone, and some higher rated ones just want you to watch therm play bullet all day ..yuk.

There are lots of educational free videos given by higher rated players (e.g NM chess network)

 

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQsLDm9Rq9bHKEBnElquF8GuWkI1EJ8Zp

 

1100 people can also give such educational videos but their insight and knowledge is significantly flawed and they share those flawed messages to audience.

DonEmber

I was thinking of doing a series of Twitch livestreams, just showing me learning, in my own way, at a Slothlike pace, and showing the tools I was learning with, going through example games, and then trying out moves I'm learning as openings, seeing how they play out against the chess.com computer. Do you think there'd be any interest from viewers in watching a newbie struggle? It occurred to me because I found some of the liveplay streams too high level for me to be able to understand, what with the fast pace (hence the name I made up; "Sloth Chess". Any feedback would be appreciated, and might save me from public humiliation. lol.

Marcyful
DonEmber wrote:

I was thinking of doing a series of Twitch livestreams, just showing me learning, in my own way, at a Slothlike pace, and showing the tools I was learning with, going through example games, and then trying out moves I'm learning as openings, seeing how they play out against the chess.com computer. Do you think there'd be any interest from viewers in watching a newbie struggle? It occurred to me because I found some of the liveplay streams too high level for me to be able to understand, what with the fast pace (hence the name I made up; "Sloth Chess". Any feedback would be appreciated, and might save me from public humiliation. lol.

Besides being a top chess player, being known for making entertainment out of chess is a key factor in making your channel interesting. Take Levy Rozman for example. He does plenty of recaps of top level classical tournaments which may sound boring at first, but he does it in a way that keeps the viewer engaged throughout the whole video. He's energetic, talks moderately loud and fast, cracks up witty jokes, speaks in different exaggerated accents, and makes hilarious reactions to blunders, engine evaluations, seemingly awful moves, etc. And low and behold he's now the most subbed chess channel on youtube exceeding Hikaru and Agadmator who started doing youtube videos way before he did. He also has tens of thousands of viewers watching him whenever he streams on twitch which is a bonus. I'm not suggesting you to imitate everything about him, but to give you ideas that may help you bring in lots of viewers without a master's title or an already well known reputation of streaming other games. Find something about yourself that entertains others and makes them laugh, try to stay upbeat and energetic throughout your streams, and simply just be yourself. Good luck in your future streams! happy.png

DonEmber

Marcyful: Thank you so much for your feedback, and there was a lot of useful info in your reply too, to mull over. I think my main problem with be the lack of pace, hence the fact I'm referring to the way I'm learning chess as "Sloth Chess", but I'm having a go at doing a regular Sunday night stream, with a view to seeing a bit of progression happening, from study on my own during the week, and hope the viewers will see the progression, and feel that's what makes them want to watch, if they're a beginner. I did my first chess livestream yesterday (my channel is mostly art practice), and tried to add interest for the viewer by exploring tools, to facilitate self-learning, that they could explore, if chess looked intriguing to them. I think my market segment, so to speak, might be people like me, who just were looking for a hobby that engages the mind, and took it up by chance, on the spur of the moment, after seeing it somewhere. The rapid fire, fun chat I tend to do when I'm just speaking, but figure I can't when I'm focussing, so I tried to make things interesting by showing a site going through a famous game, to learn an opening I could use (King's Gambit, in the "Immortal Game") when I tried a game against the chess.com bot. Not everyone hung in for the whole stream, and I wasn't expecting them to, but a few turned up, and I linked to the tools I was using, so I'll see how it goes as the weeks progress, and whether any beginners have had a go at chess themselves, and want to chat about it, or watch me struggle along. Typical me, I lost the game I played live, although the two games I'd played before, and not streamed, I'd won. I don't mind making a twit of myself, or losing games, if I'm learning, and I hope potential viewers who mightn't have confidence in their own game will like that, as well as watching someone talk about their own progress, and what skills they've learned during the week, each Sunday. Your feedback brought up several very relevant points about what viewers like, and what niche the streamer's aiming to please, so I'm very grateful for you taking the time to reply. Let's hope I become a better chess player, and it'll be a bonus if viewers enjoy the stream, and have a go at chess as well, after seeing even a Sloth brain can learn!

Marcyful
DonEmber wrote:

Marcyful: Thank you so much for your feedback, and there was a lot of useful info in your reply too, to mull over. I think my main problem with be the lack of pace, hence the fact I'm referring to the way I'm learning chess as "Sloth Chess", but I'm having a go at doing a regular Sunday night stream, with a view to seeing a bit of progression happening, from study on my own during the week, and hope the viewers will see the progression, and feel that's what makes them want to watch, if they're a beginner. I did my first chess livestream yesterday (my channel is mostly art practice), and tried to add interest for the viewer by exploring tools, to facilitate self-learning, that they could explore, if chess looked intriguing to them. I think my market segment, so to speak, might be people like me, who just were looking for a hobby that engages the mind, and took it up by chance, on the spur of the moment, after seeing it somewhere. The rapid fire, fun chat I tend to do when I'm just speaking, but figure I can't when I'm focussing, so I tried to make things interesting by showing a site going through a famous game, to learn an opening I could use (King's Gambit, in the "Immortal Game") when I tried a game against the chess.com bot. Not everyone hung in for the whole stream, and I wasn't expecting them to, but a few turned up, and I linked to the tools I was using, so I'll see how it goes as the weeks progress, and whether any beginners have had a go at chess themselves, and want to chat about it, or watch me struggle along. Typical me, I lost the game I played live, although the two games I'd played before, and not streamed, I'd won. I don't mind making a twit of myself, or losing games, if I'm learning, and I hope potential viewers who mightn't have confidence in their own game will like that, as well as watching someone talk about their own progress, and what skills they've learned during the week, each Sunday. Your feedback brought up several very relevant points about what viewers like, and what niche the streamer's aiming to please, so I'm very grateful for you taking the time to reply. Let's hope I become a better chess player, and it'll be a bonus if viewers enjoy the stream, and have a go at chess as well, after seeing even a Sloth brain can learn!

Glad you liked it. Perhaps I can come check out your streams sometime. SlothChess is the name of the channel right?

DonEmber

Marcyful: That's very nice of you. My Twitch channel is donnaemeraldart, 'cos I do mostly art there, but the new Sunday night stream has Sloth Chess in the title, and I like my little descriptive made up term, so whenever I go live (8pm-ish, GMT as I'm in Ireland), I'll put Sloth Chess in the title again. Thanks again for your very useful feedback, and I'm watching a Levy Rozman beginner's vid right now, and enjoying his delivery a lot. I hadn't heard of him, and have a lot to discover, in my new chess journey.

Marcyful
DonEmber wrote:

Marcyful: That's very nice of you. My Twitch channel is donnaemeraldart, 'cos I do mostly art there, but the new Sunday night stream has Sloth Chess in the title, and I like my little descriptive made up term, so whenever I go live (8pm-ish, GMT as I'm in Ireland), I'll put Sloth Chess in the title again. Thanks again for your very useful feedback, and I'm watching a Levy Rozman beginner's vid right now, and enjoying his delivery a lot. I hadn't heard of him, and have a lot to discover, in my new chess journey.

Oof, that's like 4 a.m. at my place. Not sure if I could make it for Sunday night streams.

Jimemy

I stream, my rating isnt very high and I have not played for more then little over a year. But for me with streaming, I am happy if I get 1-2 people being active in chat while I stream. I know I am not entertaining or a supergood streamer, but I do it anyway. Because I think its fun to hang out with people that way. Like play a game togheter and have some fun. Last stream we played bongcloud with a viewer where both me and viewer played bongcloud, that made me laugh happy.png 

DonEmber

Are you on Twitch, Jimemy, because I'm even newer to chess than you, and I think I'd like your streams. I wouldn't feel as intimidated, in the chat, if I knew the streamer was sympathetic to total newbies turning up? If you give me your channel name, I'd love to drop by and chat in your stream, and see some games, without feeling too nervous everything's too difficult for me to understand.nervous.png

DonEmber

Just found the link on your profile. D'uh. Let's hope my chess logic is better than my life logic. I'll follow you on Twitch, so I can see what you're up to, on the next stream.grin.png