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Chess Researcher/Historian Needed!
Change the rule so that black goes first?
Ah yes.
Black goes first for next 2 centuries.
Then flip of the coin after that, to even everything out.
But I thought, "Once you go Black, you don't go back."
I'm confused.
<What you want already exists in Shogi>
Ok thank you for the suggestion. i'll check it out.
My art teacher, Mrs. Baden would call that, "You're day late and dollar short."
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/community/chess-researcher-historian-needed?page=3#comment-88549311
@blackplaysfirst was too busy name-calling to see what was literally right in front of him.
<What you want already exists in Shogi>
Ok thank you for the suggestion. i'll check it out.
That should be:
Thank you, white supremacy apologist. (in your own words).
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/community/chess-researcher-historian-needed?page=3#comment-88557697
ummm... I love chess. that's why i'm here. and i'm not really interested in who's a good guy and who's a bad guy.
Lying through his teeth.
He calls me a "white supremacy apologist."
But he's not "interested in who's a good guy and who's a bad guy."
Well I am.
I was wondering when a white supremacy apologist was going to show up, not actually read any of the evidence that was presented, and spam the thread with nonsense
I am quoting it, just in case he changes it.
I am a chess player. Have to be one step ahead.
This dude? Wouldn't take him too seriously
Intermission.
Don't worry @blackplaysfirst. I'll get back on your [bleep] in a minute.
Somewhere in the Mirror Universe of girls.
There's an Oreo Barbie.
Like the Oreo cookie, she's black on the outside but white on the inside. And she "talks White" like First Lady Michelle Obama.

@blackplaysfirst
You're not creative.
In American football, the one who goes first is the offense. The one who goes second is the defense.
You should "Christian" your new rule:
The Black Attack Rule.
Now it's catchy. And rhymes.
It appears that the fact the game is white the colour vs black the colour is troublesome to you.
Would it not be easier to push for a change of colours (e.g. yellow vs purple, red vs green)?
What about draught/checkers where the player with black pieces (or the player with the darker colour pieces) play first? Does it also need to be modified?
Red and blue exists in Chinese Chess.
But back to my joke.
The problem is not in the psychiatrist. The problem is in the patient.
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/community/chess-researcher-historian-needed?page=2#comment-88524449
Black and White is the perfect representation of Yin and Yang.
And no, Yin and Yang are not sexist. Humans are part of Yin and Yang. But Yin and Yang are in everything, not just humans. Computers. 0 and 1. Empty and Full. Another expression of Yin and Yang.
In fact, Yin and Yang are binary numbers, thousands of years before computers were invented.
Martin, yes i think your reaction is natural and has some merit. However, this is not change for change's sake at all. I would say that there is a huge difference between using the words white-black, and using the words light-dark.
@blackplaysfirst
I'm dragging you into a street fight. The first rule of street fighting, "Rules are for fools."
This will a no-rules street fight.
Why don't we make both sides Black and call it Black on Black crime.
With one side "light skinned" and the other side "dark skinned".
It actually has a basis in reality.
Chess is the perfect expression of the Yin and the Yang.
The Black and the White.
The full and the empty squares.
The slow and the fast. Pawns and Rooks.
The fixed colors and the changing colors. Knights and Bishops.
The black squares and the white squares.
The weak and the powerful. Pawns and Queens.
The straight and the circular. Rooks and Knights.
The small and the large. King and Queen.
And in Chinese Chess.
The direct and the indirect. Rook and Cannons.
The offense and the defense.
The stay in one place, and the moving.
The perfect game of Yin and Yang. Of Black and White.
Even more than religion, chess brings completely different people together like nothing else can.
Don't be bad-mouthing chess. I will kick your [bleep].
(...) In the name of standardization they created a new set of universal guidelines for chess notation. And in the name of the pseudo science (social Darwinism, scientific racism) they invented the rule that white should play first. For decades, chess players outside of Germany resisted this change, no doubt arguing "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". But as imperialism and the colonization of Africa advanced, so did white supremacy and the rule stuck. Time to change it.
After a quick research I've some doubts doubts:
"Algebraic notation is the most widely used method for recording moves. It is based on a system of coordinates (a–h for files, 1–8 for ranks) to uniquely identify each square. In embryonic form it was used by Philip Stamma in the 1737 book Essai sur le jeu des echecs. It was later adopted (in long form) by the influential Handbuch des Schachspiels and became standard in German publications." (source: Wikipedia)
I've followed your link to the Handbuch des Schachspiels (from comment #47) and read the text there (German is my native language and as a historian I've read many texts in Fraktur font). There isn't any hint, that the way of notation is new in 1852. It's presented with the same matter of course as the names of chess pieces.
Already the German edition of Wikipedia several other publications which used Algebraic notation earlier than the Handbuch: "Die algebraische Darstellung, die sich gegenüber der beschreibenden Methode (siehe Beschreibende Notation) nur allmählich durchsetzte, findet sich erstmals 1737 bei Philipp Stamma in seinem Essai sur le jeu des échecs. In Deutschland erfolgte der Übergang relativ früh, ausgelöst durch das in Breslau erschienene dreibändige Werk Das Schach des Herrn Gioachino Greco Calabrois und die Schachspiel-Geheimnisse des Arabers Philipp Stamma, von Moses Hirschel von 1784 und das erstmals 1795 erschienenen Lehrbuch Neue theoretisch-praktische Anweisung zum Schachspiel von Johann Allgaier."
It's looks to be likely that the Algebraic notation leads to a White-moves-first habit as one of its inherent compromises is the Queen on a light square on the d file left from the king and the black Queen on a dark square on the d file right from the king.
But, where is any direct relation between Philip Stamma's French book in the 18th century and German science in the 19th century?
I was introduced to Algebraic Notation by Battleship.
It is an incredibly efficient system.
Chinese Chess has the worst system, dead reckoning.
Rook moves forward 5 steps.
Knight moves forward 2 steps, right 1 step.
But, where is any direct relation between Philip Stamma's French book in the 18th century and German science in the 19th century?
It is as fake as a "hamburger" which does not come from Hamburg.
The guy wants to make up fake stuff, in foreign language that nobody will read, wave a flag and be a "social justice warrior", and he's the good guy fighting racism, colonialism, and white supremacy, etc . . .
"social justice warrior"
A lesson from Chess, and it is in real life.
If you're going to be a soldier, you better be convicted (as in conviction).
Because there is a soldier on the other side too. You better be willing to kill and to die, because the soldier on the side is willing to, too.
Change the rule so that black goes first?
Ah yes.
Black goes first for next 2 centuries.
Then flip of the coin after that, to even everything out.