AfafBouardi wrote:
downgrading still allows your location to be found.
So any premium member can see anyone's location, including non-premium members?
Considering Retiring my Account
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Well, this is certainly worrying. I had no idea that chess.com did their best to freely provide player IPs and, by extension, locations to anybody with a paid account, regardless of consent. I doubt that many people do, in fact, particularly us free users. You have said that you messaged chess.com before posting this; what was their reply regarding point three?
The first two points are more personal preference than anything else, though, really. As has been noted, it's not uncommon for sites to remove a person's presence automatically with a ban, and graphic images are at the admins' discretion.
Feb 23, 2010
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philidor_position wrote:
AfafBouardi wrote:
downgrading still allows your location to be found.
So any premium member can see anyone's location, including non-premium members?
yes, though I don't see why being a paying member I need to see people's locations. If they want me to know, they'll tell me.
And why can't I get my location NOT available to the public?
Schachgeek wrote:
Do you really think your "privacy" is safe on Facebook? Ask for a copy of their privacy policy.
I have my own gripe with Facebook for allowing a convicted murderer and some other felons/drug addicts to contact my young children (ages 11,12 and 13). According to Facebook security, fathers do not have a right to determine who his kids communicate with.
SO if you think you're safer on Facebook, good luck with that.
That is a completely different issue. Facebook does not freely provide any sort of location tracking without consent. Though it does have issues with privacy, you cannot simply find somebody's location on a map. Not even a country, for which IPs are practically never wrong unless spoofed somehow.
Your children could quite easily choose to not let those people contact them if they decide to.
Chess.com likely thought it would be a fun feature to add without completely understanding or thinking through the privacy implications. Send them a note (if you haven't already) so they can address the issue.
Feb 23, 2010
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If you tinker with the settings, facebook is fairly private. I've never had someone tell me where I'm located on facebook and the only people who are on my list are people I know in person.
I don't think facebook is really an application for kids.
Anthony...no, I'm not paying fifty dollars so Chess.com can't give people my location.
ichabod801 wrote:
I just did a check. I'm at work, 11 miles from my home. The map is showing my location as 3000 feet from my home.
Feb 23, 2010
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Xhu wrote:
Well, this is certainly worrying. I had no idea that chess.com did their best to freely provide player IPs and, by extension, locations to anybody with a paid account, regardless of consent. I doubt that many people do, in fact, particularly us free users. You have said that you messaged chess.com before posting this; what was their reply regarding point three?
They said there is nothing they can do. They said everyone shows up on the map.
philidor_position wrote:
I was one of the people (I assume) who reported that picture in your photo album which included the separated head and the body of the goat and with lots of blood.
So removal of that picture put you off huh. Seriously? This site is not 18+. There are children, as well as mature individuals who have not given consent to encountering such shocking & obscene visual material, including me. You really should have known better.
The Geek wrote:
Regarding the goat sacrifice, I acknowledge there are different religions and cultures for whom such things are considered normal or even entertainment (such as Bull Fighting) but I'm an adult and I would have found the images disturbing. In historical terms it wasn't all that long ago that human sacrifice was practiced by various cultures and I would find that disturbing and uncivilized too - especially if I was the victim. And without getting into the politics of it all, aren't suicide bombers also human sacrifices in the name of religion? Not civilized."
Are you guys for real?! It's obscene to kill animals in order to eat them? You all have lived some sheltered lives. Personally, I'm not a big fan of that particular part of the food procurement chain--mostly because I've raised the critters up from cute, little, wee ones, and the killing part is not fun. However, I recognize that it is necessary in order to ensure my own survival and the survival of those who depend upon me.
You all should realize that food doesn't just appear out of fat air in nice cellophane packages.
And I'll bet this too: the goat that gave its life to provide sustenance for Afaf and her family likely had a much more humane and (dignified?) death than the mass slaughtered animals that you all eat.
I don't like that map either, as my wife found out using it, to see from where I am playing, and she just picked me up in a nice pub I might even prosecute chess.com.
Feb 23, 2010
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ilikeflags wrote:
these threads add to the charm of chess.com
no please do not go! whah whah whah.
you're a dolt. I thought you at least knew when to stay quiet.
Don't worry this is the site where your discerning housbreaker likes to visit to get a feel for when people are away.
Feb 23, 2010
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bigpoison wrote:
philidor_position wrote:
I was one of the people (I assume) who reported that picture in your photo album which included the separated head and the body of the goat and with lots of blood.
So removal of that picture put you off huh. Seriously? This site is not 18+. There are children, as well as mature individuals who have not given consent to encountering such shocking & obscene visual material, including me. You really should have known better.
Are you guys for real?! It's obscene to kill animals in order to eat them? You all have lived some sheltered lives.
Look. You don't know me, and you don't get the point. That's all I'm going to say to you.
Afaf
Please don't leave you are a forum legend whether you are based in Morocco or Pakistan who cares? Stay with us the force is strong in you.
Feb 23, 2010
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buster47 wrote:
I don't like that map either, as my wife found out using it, to see from where I am playing, and she just picked me up in a nice pub I might even prosecute chess.com.
hehe. Hope you weren't doing anything I wouldn't do.
Schachgeek wrote:
Children are children. They are not adults. At least in California, the age of consent is 18. Children below that don't have a right to make such decisions. It's up to their parents and if some of those unsavory characters that Facebook refuses to block were to harm my kids...I would be held responsible under California law.
It's called the "justice" system. But courts in the USA haven't dispensed much "justice" in the last 100 years.
Yes. That's right. It is up to the parents. It's your responsibility to ensure that your children are safe on the internet with whatever privacy or parental controls you deem suitable, not the website's itself. Why do you let them use a social networking site if you are so concerned about them meeting the wrong people over it?
Feb 23, 2010
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#37
Being as how I'm not a parent at this time, maybe I have little room to speak. But...I am a bit conservative about children and having been a teenager with internet at one time...
Basically I don't think parents should allow children even under 15 on the internet without being present or blocking all non education websites. Social chatting and the like would not be permitted.
I know that lots of parents are swamped with work and are busy...but I do think many really succumb to lazy forms of parenting. As my mother once said...being a parent is like being given a glass to hold in your hand...and being told you can never put it down. At all.
philidor_position wrote:
bigpoison wrote:
philidor_position wrote:
I was one of the people (I assume) who reported that picture in your photo album which included the separated head and the body of the goat and with lots of blood.
So removal of that picture put you off huh. Seriously? This site is not 18+. There are children, as well as mature individuals who have not given consent to encountering such shocking & obscene visual material, including me. You really should have known better.
Are you guys for real?! It's obscene to kill animals in order to eat them? You all have lived some sheltered lives.
Look. You don't know me, and you don't get the point. That's all I'm going to say to you.
I don't know you, and I certainly don't get your point. Do you?
philidor_position wrote:
I was one of the people (I assume) who reported that picture in your photo album which included the separated head and the body of the goat and with lots of blood.
So removal of that picture put you off huh. Seriously? This site is not 18+. There are children, as well as mature individuals who have not given consent to encountering such shocking & obscene visual material, including me. You really should have known better.
Instead of reporting it couldn't you have send a message or a note to AfatBouardi saying what you felt, as I would think that big brother are deleting enough without us telling.People reporting others, anonymous,(not saying you did that) also leave me with a bad felling and that is in my opinion even worse that showing a headless goat and lot's of blood.
Schachgeek wrote:
bigpoison wrote:
philidor_position wrote:
I was one of the people (I assume) who reported that picture in your photo album which included the separated head and the body of the goat and with lots of blood.
So removal of that picture put you off huh. Seriously? This site is not 18+. There are children, as well as mature individuals who have not given consent to encountering such shocking & obscene visual material, including me. You really should have known better.
The Geek wrote:
Regarding the goat sacrifice, I acknowledge there are different religions and cultures for whom such things are considered normal or even entertainment (such as Bull Fighting) but I'm an adult and I would have found the images disturbing. In historical terms it wasn't all that long ago that human sacrifice was practiced by various cultures and I would find that disturbing and uncivilized too - especially if I was the victim. And without getting into the politics of it all, aren't suicide bombers also human sacrifices in the name of religion? Not civilized."
Are you guys for real?! It's obscene to kill animals in order to eat them? You all have lived some sheltered lives. Personally, I'm not a big fan of that particular part of the food procurement chain--mostly because I've raised the critters up from cute, little, wee ones, and the killing part is not fun. However, I recognize that it is necessary in order to ensure my own survival and the survival of those who depend upon me.
You all should realize that food doesn't just appear out of fat air in nice cellophane packages.
And I'll bet this too: the goat that gave its life to provide sustenance for Afaf and her family likely had a much more humane and (dignified?) death than the mass slaughtered animals that you all eat.
Repeatedly stabbing a bull over the course of half an hour and allowing it to bleed to death while continuing to torment it is not humane. And get this, because it's so stressful to the bull/adrenalin etc the meat becomes too tough to eat so the bull is simply discarded.
I have a problem with that.
Bit of a detour from the original post but people who hunt just for the trophy, cutting off the head to mount in the living room leaving the meat behind, well I have a problem with that too.
Everybody knows that food comes from dead animals/plants/fish/reptiles/insects.
Doesn't matter if you're vegetarian, vegan, carnivore or omnivorous. Something had to die to end up on your plate.
Do I think it odd that some cultures eat dogs and cats? Sure, but as long as any animal is killed humanely and not tortured then I'm ok with that.
Hey, The Geek,
Far out, man. Nice post. I certainly agree with you that bullfighting is a very strange endeavor. I always thought it was pretty nancy that they use these puny little bulls, stuck full of spears before the actual "fight". They should fight some 1900 lb. Simmentals, not stuck full of spears. That would be much more interesting.
The one point of the post that I'm not sure I agree with is that part about everybody "knowing" where their food comes from. I think many people think that food comes from the grocery store.
Tomjoad. I don't know what to say more to make you understand...think of it as a chess puzzle.
No, think of it as you having a different experience as a subscriber. As a basic member that Google map thing does not show anything to me - just a map, no members.
That aside, from other posts that have stated the issue more clearly, I agree that IP tracking through Google maps without an opt in/opt out feature is a serious privacy intrusion.