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long_quach wrote:

"We are one family."

That's the FIDE motto right?

FIDE's motto is "corruption first, especially if it comes from Russia" (seriously, look up the history of FIDE going back to the 1960s)

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it doesn't matter that england or wales aren't independent countries. the correct way to refer to them is country.

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the UK itself doesn't even have a written constitution. i guess you're saying that the UK isn't a country then?

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Snowchlobe wrote:

it doesn't matter that england or wales aren't independent countries. the correct way to refer to them is country.

The UK is a dynastic monarchy that calls itself a democracy despite having no checks and balances and not having ever elected its head of government or head of state. It also calls a bunch of oral traditions a "constitution." It doesn't get to tell others what words mean.

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MD1806 wrote:
Snowchlobe wrote:

it doesn't matter that england or wales aren't independent countries. the correct way to refer to them is country.

The UK is a dynastic monarchy that calls itself a democracy despite having no checks and balances and not having ever elected its head of government or head of state. It also calls a bunch of oral traditions a "constitution." It doesn't get to tell others what words mean.

your countries government and constitution is just copied from the UK.

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Snowchlobe wrote:
MD1806 wrote:
Snowchlobe wrote:

it doesn't matter that england or wales aren't independent countries. the correct way to refer to them is country.

The UK is a dynastic monarchy that calls itself a democracy despite having no checks and balances and not having ever elected its head of government or head of state. It also calls a bunch of oral traditions a "constitution." It doesn't get to tell others what words mean.

your countries government and constitution is just copied from the UK.

Oh really? Where is the dynastic, hereditary monarchy? Where is the unicameral absolute executive? Where is the parliament? Where is the unelected head of government? Where are the royal courts? Where are the personal unions? Where is the absolute central government? (The UK doesn't have a constitution; it has a series of traditions and common laws)

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the UK made the magna carta and the bill of rights. that's what your constitution is made of :/

our government is elected and we have normal courts idk what you mean. we have parliament too.

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Snowchlobe wrote:

the UK made the magna carta and the bill of rights. that's what your constitution is made of :/

our government is elected and we have normal courts idk what you mean. we have parliament too.

They don't teach you much about your own government in the imperialist propaganda machines they call schools over there, do they? You only elect one Member of Parliament at the national level. Your head of state is a Greek-Danish hereditary dynast, and your head of government is the leader of whichever group can cobble together either an election win or a coalition. Neither has ever been elected by the people. Your court system exists because your hereditary dynast created it; it has no constitutional checks and balances over the rest of the government.

The US Constitution is based on the Roman Republic's, with a large dose of Montesquieu's proposed constitution and a strong influence from Rousseau, among others. It also borrows from the quasi-federalist systems of places like Switzerland (through Rousseau). Magna Carta has nothing to do with the US Constitution; it's a guarantee of the rights of the hereditary nobility in England, while the US Constitution explicitly bans hereditary nobility. The 1689 Bill of Rights does influence the US Bill of Rights, but that's only a small part of a very large and complex constitution.

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I'm not reading all that. Americans would be on horseback shooting each other with bow and arrows rn if the UK didn't exist.

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barvinoq wrote:

tell this nazi that english is not only spoken in United Kingdom

You sound like you don't have a sense of humor, I was literally mocking North Korea (which is communist, not fascist). Appreciate a joke, man.

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Fascinating though the origins and peculiartities of various constitutions might be, we started off talking about flags, and lest the thread get locked for moving into more contentious contemporary geo-politics I would simply make the point that the Scottish flag, the Saltire of white on blue, is recognised as the oldest in Europe.

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barvinoq wrote:

tell this nazi that english is not only spoken in United Kingdom

You sound like you don't have a sense of humor, I was literally mocking North Korea (which is communist, not fascist). Appreciate a joke, man.

these words were not meant for you. If I have no sense of humor, then you have no sense of logic ; )

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bramjam55 wrote:

Fascinating though the origins and peculiartities of various constitutions might be, we started off talking about flags, and lest the thread get locked for moving into more contentious contemporary geo-politics I would simply make the point that the Scottish flag, the Saltire of white on blue, is recognised as the oldest in Europe.

Funny; the blue flag isn't even the oldest Scottish flag; the yellow with the red lion (the actual Scottish flag) predates it by at least 200 years. The Burgundian Cross also long predates the blue Scottish flag, and the Dutch tricolor is at least contemporaneous with it, if not predating it as well.

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MD1806 wrote:

The UK is a dynastic monarchy that calls itself a democracy despite having no checks and balances and not having ever elected its head of government or head of state. It also calls a bunch of oral traditions a "constitution." It doesn't get to tell others what words mean.

I forgot that the Magna Carta was a work of fiction made up by Monty Python.

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True, MD, but the Lion Rampant isn't a national flag. The Saltire is the national flag, the Lion Rampant was the personal banner or coat of arms of the monarch.

The Burgundian Cross too is personal rather than national, and associated with the family of Dukes of Burgandy. Whether by conquest or marriage it was incorporated into armorials of the Habsburgs. Again , it's not a national flag.

I'm intrigued by your notion that the Dutch Tricolour predates the Scottish Saltire . The Saltire goes back to 832 and the battle of Atholstaneford. Even the Royal House of the Netherlands only claims their Tricolour goes back to 1572 (https://www.royal-house.nl/topics/flags/flag-of-the-netherlands)

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Since when it it allowed to verbally abuse countries and people around here? Where are the moderators?

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Guys it's not that serious. This is a chess website not a political one. Just do the official countries of the world.

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MD1806 wrote:
Snowchlobe wrote:

the UK made the magna carta and the bill of rights. that's what your constitution is made of :/

our government is elected and we have normal courts idk what you mean. we have parliament too.

They don't teach you much about your own government in the imperialist propaganda machines they call schools over there, do they? You only elect one Member of Parliament at the national level. Your head of state is a Greek-Danish hereditary dynast, and your head of government is the leader of whichever group can cobble together either an election win or a coalition. Neither has ever been elected by the people. Your court system exists because your hereditary dynast created it; it has no constitutional checks and balances over the rest of the government.

The US Constitution is based on the Roman Republic's, with a large dose of Montesquieu's proposed constitution and a strong influence from Rousseau, among others. It also borrows from the quasi-federalist systems of places like Switzerland (through Rousseau). Magna Carta has nothing to do with the US Constitution; it's a guarantee of the rights of the hereditary nobility in England, while the US Constitution explicitly bans hereditary nobility. The 1689 Bill of Rights does influence the US Bill of Rights, but that's only a small part of a very large and complex constitution.

I thought the UK and the US were friends. When is Chess.com going to ban this forum?

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MD1806 wrote:
Snowchlobe wrote:
MD1806 wrote:
Snowchlobe wrote:

it doesn't matter that england or wales aren't independent countries. the correct way to refer to them is country.

The UK is a dynastic monarchy that calls itself a democracy despite having no checks and balances and not having ever elected its head of government or head of state. It also calls a bunch of oral traditions a "constitution." It doesn't get to tell others what words mean.

your countries government and constitution is just copied from the UK.

Oh really? Where is the dynastic, hereditary monarchy? Where is the unicameral absolute executive? Where is the parliament? Where is the unelected head of government? Where are the royal courts? Where are the personal unions? Where is the absolute central government? (The UK doesn't have a constitution; it has a series of traditions and common laws)

Canadians be like: cry

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barvinoq wrote:
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barvinoq wrote:

tell this nazi that english is not only spoken in United Kingdom

You sound like you don't have a sense of humor, I was literally mocking North Korea (which is communist, not fascist). Appreciate a joke, man.

these words were not meant for you. If I have no sense of humor, then you have no sense of logic ; )

😅 SORRY!

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