Cynical circumvention of the rules

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Elroch

What is the appropriate procedure when a user receives a mute for abuse in the forums, immediately closes the account, opens another and continues in such a way that all the other participants can immediately see who it is, and that he has circumvented the mute?

justbefair

I don't think there is a set procedure.

Elroch

A procedure then. There is no option in the abuse reporting interface that says "new account circumventing action against previous account".

Johnny_Hopper

The mods ban the account.

Elroch

Not if they don't hear about it.

It's ok, I've just realised there is an "other" option, for reporting and it allows an explanation. Makes this thread unnecessary, to be frank.

Johnny_Hopper
Elroch wrote:

Not if they don't hear about it.

It's ok, I've just realised there is an "other" option, for reporting and it allows an explanation. Makes this thread unnecessary, to be frank.

What option is that?

MrChatty

You may use the option "Other" in the report window and describe everything related to the abuser's accounts. Still if the abuser keeps abusing any abuse option will be ok. I dont think there is some automatic procedure to detect this case so only manual reports from many players matter

Johnny_Hopper
emilio1689 wrote:

You may use the option "Other" in the report window and describe everything related to the abuser's accounts. Still if the abuser keeps abusing any abuse option will be ok. I dont think there is some automatic procedure to detect this case so only manual reports from many players matter

Thanks for the explanation.

MrChatty

I would not pretend I fully explained the case happy.png

Every day I see one alternatively gifted guy in open bullet tournaments who curses, harasses female players and sometimes cheats. This has been continuing more than 2 months and we have that guy banned over 25 times. So I just shared my experience

RonaldJosephCote

I've never heard of this....surprise.....an unnecessary thread by the name of FRANK? shock

RonaldJosephCote

The're even letting cheaters open new accounts now. meh Why not just put up a sign saying......we accept all cheaters. frustrated Like everybody else, the site's hurting for money $$ https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/my-friend-got-banned-for-fair-play-and-i-dont-know-why

Johnny_Hopper
emilio1689 wrote:

I would not pretend I fully explained the case

Every day I see one alternatively gifted guy in open bullet tournaments who curses, harasses female players and sometimes cheats. This has been continuing more than 2 months and we have that guy banned over 25 times. So I just shared my experience

Huh, that's gross.

MrChatty

What exactly? Cursing, harassing and cheating or reporting that guy within 2 months?

sawdof
Elroch wrote:

A procedure then. There is no option in the abuse reporting interface that says "new account circumventing action against previous account".

For my own peace of mind, I've decided not to care more than the site does.

Martin_Stahl
Elroch wrote:

What is the appropriate procedure when a user receives a mute for abuse in the forums, immediately closes the account, opens another and continues in such a way that all the other participants can immediately see who it is, and that he has circumvented the mute?

Contact Support directly. Closing accounts to get around mutes can result in the new account being muted and continuing may result in account closures instead of mutes.

Elroch

Thanks - done.

MrChatty

> Contact Support directly

Unfortunately, it takes up to several days (sometimes even more) for the support to read your report and take an action + it is pretty easy for the people who want to curse or to cheat to open new accounts as there is no value in any of those

Elroch

No action yet, as you say. But it is an interesting case when the behaviour of the user concerned (in forums) makes them easily recognisable the instant they post with a new account.

MrChatty

Nowadays they dont even hide, they just make another account and keep doing things they were banned for, it is possible due to small and slow support, as I said it takes days to ban players even if you provide the detailed information to the support stuff

Johnny_Hopper
emilio1689 wrote:

What exactly? Cursing, harassing and cheating or reporting that guy within 2 months?

The guy in general.