My friend got banned for fair play and I dont know why

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GM-BrilliantEmote

My friend Caro-KannArtist, got banned earlier today for fair play. I checked his account and I couldn't see any evidence of cheating. His games weren't that high accuracy for a 2k rated player, around 80% for blitz. He won approximately as many games as he lost. He missed a decent amount of tactics for someone rated 2k. And his elo growth seemed steady. He wasn't even taking the same amount of time per move as cheaters often do. I asked him if he cheated and he denied it. 
https://www.chess.com/member/caro-kannartist 
Can someone please help me understand what chess.com found suspicious enough to ban him for. Any insight would be much appreciated.

TheCobraisaready

Could have been for another reason like insulting other players or maybe he was cheating they say cheaters often miss certain tactics as its not them actually thinking out the moves

GM-BrilliantEmote
I dont think the reason was language since his account was closed for fair play. For your second point, I assume you mean that he is possibly intermediately cheating (ie: cheating on some moves and not others). Even if this was true (which i dont think it is), im curious what chess.com found suspicious about his account. As far as i can tell, all games look fairly normal.
TheCobraisaready

He should contact them and explain his case, it must suck to get your account banned especially if he's done nothing wrong, there has been cases where the site bans people by mistake so worth checking

GM-BrilliantEmote
I told him that but he said that he was given an option to appeal or just make a new account. And since he thought appealing might take weeks and he just wanted to play some chess, he just made a new account, which means he can’t appeal. (Note: I think he should’ve appealed but i guess that’s just my opinion)
Caro-KannArtist

This is my new account

SeanTheSheep021

If your account was closed for fair play, you can reopen the account by signing a form

TRAITORFORTHEW

I'm pretty sure anyone getting banned without any base would appeal. not appealing here means he prolly knows he did something. he could've opened another account on a different device as well, if he was very desperate to play. when we see his new account is at 1700 blitz right now. its pretty fair to say that he might have cheated.

Caro-KannArtist

I at least got back to 1900 blitz

vitinchan

yeah I have a friend that is super good and never cheated but chess.com keeps banning out of nowhere, they don't even really check the profile, they just ban, and if you contact support they say to check email, and you send email and they don't even read, it's stupid

HangingPiecesChomper

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ChessAGC_YT
GM-BrilliantEmote wrote:

My friend Caro-KannArtist, got banned earlier today for fair play. I checked his account and I couldn't see any evidence of cheating. His games weren't that high accuracy for a 2k rated player, around 80% for blitz. He won approximately as many games as he lost. He missed a decent amount of tactics for someone rated 2k. And his elo growth seemed steady. He wasn't even taking the same amount of time per move as cheaters often do. I asked him if he cheated and he denied it. 
https://www.chess.com/member/caro-kannartist 
Can someone please help me understand what chess.com found suspicious enough to ban him for. Any insight would be much appreciated.

um he got unbanned?

ChessAGC_YT
HangingPiecesChomper wrote:

chess.com bans are like a roulette. some legit people eat the ban hammer unfairly and some cheaters never get banned.

no shot we commented at the same time

Elroch

Did he get unbanned?

ChessAGC_YT

check the link

MGleason

Look at the account creation date. It's a new account with the same name as the old account, and there is an old account with the same name and "-inactive" on the end.

This is a common policy for approved second chance accounts: the banned account gets renamed by adding "-inactive" to free up the original name for the new account.

ifronning

Cheating is so prevalent on this site, especially in Rapid games, that we could probably report every single player and be correct 90% of the time. That means many of the people who read this are guilty of cheating at some point. Maybe they do not cheat often, but them cheating even once or twice in the past year is nearly guaranteed. Just google how many people admit to cheating in online games. It is depressing. I will never feel bad about reporting someone, because statistically speaking they are probably one of the cheaters.

In other words, he probably cheated, if only a few times.

WongEthanLY

He did not get banned

ktnkotan

It's chess, bound to be inaccurate sometimes

Martin_Stahl
ifronning wrote:

Cheating is so prevalent on this site, especially in Rapid games, that we could probably report every single player and be correct 90% of the time. That means many of the people who read this are guilty of cheating at some point. Maybe they do not cheat often, but them cheating even once or twice in the past year is nearly guaranteed. Just google how many people admit to cheating in online games. It is depressing. I will never feel bad about reporting someone, because statistically speaking they are probably one of the cheaters.

In other words, he probably cheated, if only a few times.

This is not correct. The vast majority of players and games are clean.

https://www.chess.com/article/view/online-chess-cheating

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