In my group (Chess Empire) I have about 90% agreement, which seems a good result compared to other teams. TDT also has 100% often.
American group has around 75. It could be higher if I didn't throw out what move everyone to vote for at 10:00 PM with 16 hours left :D.
i'm just curious...when did this "privacy" issue arise?
people discuss the moves. people post the moves they suggest are good. then we all have to vote in private? i just don't get it.
i don't agree that admins/super admins should be allowed to change votes in any way, but seeing them (or even everyone seeing them) doesn't seem like a big deal to me. why do we need all this anonymity?
In my group (Chess Empire) I have about 90% agreement, which seems a good result compared to other teams. TDT also has 100% often.
American group has around 75. It could be higher if I didn't throw out what move everyone to vote for at 10:00 PM with 16 hours left :D.
The Burning Pawns have a great vote chess team. We discuss more than 2 pages for our moves and their usually is more than a 90% agreement
@trigs
We're not suggesting that admins should be allowed to change votes, rather that someone should be able to change their own vote.
Also the privacy thing is the same reason why any voting system ought to be confidential. If the public agrees with one choice, but you genuinely think that another move is better, then you should be able to cast your vote without the getting into an argument (or having the Politburo go after you).
@wilt18
What I meant by my statement was that some of our individual posts have been known to be a page long. A case in point: http://www.chess.com/votechess/game.html?id=10194&mv=122&san=Ka7
ok
This is position from one of my teams vote chess. There is fev post that Qxb5 is a win. But few peoples votes nxb5 give up queen! I don't want change their votes but I want know who it is.
Yes, that was annoying and it happened on other moves too.
yea I have to ask my team to vote for the right move
I have had to do that too.
Same here!
Do You Think Admins Should Be Allowed To See Who Votes What In Vote Chess?
Not Admis or Supers ( only if they are playing ) but above all the Captain & or the rest of the players should have the right o see who votes a what, it could save a lot of problems that occour frequently in VC, yo!
Spiffe wrote:
The biggest improvement that could be made to Vote Chess would be to allow people to change their votes, up until the time when the vote locks. Seems perfectly reasonable that if something is discovered in the analysis late in the time period, that people can still act on it -- that's how real consultation chess goes.
That's a great idea that would save a lot of stress, yo!
yea changing your vote would be GREAT
The biggest improvement that could be made to Vote Chess would be to allow people to change their votes, up until the time when the vote locks. Seems perfectly reasonable that if something is discovered in the analysis late in the time period, that people can still act on it -- that's how real consultation chess goes.
That's an excellent suggestion. Often in large teams you have a situation where a lot of people vote early, and then the discussion brings to light new better moves, but it is already too late to turn the vote around. By letting people change their votes, the process would become more like consultation chess where everyone has a chance to learn and discuss, and the moves chosen actually reflect the consensus that the group arrives at instead of the sum of a bunch of random votes. Vote chess would become even more of a tool for learning, and it would probably motivate people to join in the discussions more if they know that their posts might have some impact.
uhhhh NO
This is position from one of my teams vote chess. There is fev post that Qxb5 is a win. But few peoples votes nxb5 give up queen! I don't want change their votes but I want know who it is.
Yes, that was annoying and it happened on other moves too.
Why not just ask? Why sacrifice the freedom of many when your problem is really a personal/personnel problem, not a technical one.
I can't stand vote chess for this very reason. The top 2 or 3 rated players in the group will go into the thread (even though they are the last players that need help finding a good move) and discuss everything. Move by move they present very strong lines. Often enough these players are willing to share home-cooked opening novelties that could/would score some very quick wins. But the lowly rated 12-1600 players (sorry to generalize) look at the position for two seconds, throw some vote out (sometimes hanging a piece they're so weak) and walk away. This isn't a huge problem, as the majority of drive by voters will vote different things, and the small group that is invlved in the discussion will still have the most votes, but in the opening, it's rediculous. The top few people agree that a particular group (after hours of studying the games of their top members/the games of the group) would have trouble facing a particular opening, (ie. the Sveshnikov). Then, a flood of patzers join, who either 'drive by' vote, or read the thread, respond "Stuff it, d6 voted" and ruin our shot at a sveshnikov.
If there are any vote chess groups out there that aren't useless, let me know :).
-matt
I am a member of Black or White, who for a time had the highest perfect record on chess.com (27-0-0 if I remember correctly). There are often 50 comments for each move, some posts as long as a page. And yet I have never seen anybody go to the trouble analyze an opponent team's vote games or their members' games, simply for the purpose of choosing one out of a number of oft-played opening lines would be best against a particular opponent. If you really do this in your group, I'd like to know its name