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BigChessplayer665
Jun 7, 2025
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today Volkswagon is considered a normal car company, even though it was founded by Hitler, how could Tesla be worse?

Never said Tesla wasn't a good company just that Elon isn't great and that leads to his other businesses not doing ss well as they could be but your also forgetting Tesla is a fairly stable company which means it's hard to crssh

Elon has definately taken a few missteps, but, he's not as bad as hitler.

Bro that's not an excuse you go into politics and manage to get more then 50% of people to dislike you I think there's a pretty good reason for that...

There are also a few reasons to hate Hitler, Volkswagon is doing fine, soon DOGE will be left in the dust, and tesla will do better than ever.

Prob if Elon gets fired then yes I bet Tesla would do fine

Then why did the stock spike when Elon said he eyes still being CEO in 5 years?

Explain the drop in Tesla sales then... It isn't all about stock prices but ev sales are going up ?

People don't appreciate that Musk actually cares that our country will be bankrupt in 10 years, and decided to boycott. Smart investors know it is hard it's days are numbered.

No it's just that he's a business man not a person that actually understands fiscal policy incompetency when dealing with debt is catastrophic

It's not that he cares it's how he's doing it

well he is doing it, nobody else in DC frickin cares that we ahve trillions of dollars of debt, he understands the policy, and the policy kills him everytime, the senators don't want our country to do better than china, so they keep us tangled in debt.

Well elect people who's actually want to do it then and again governments function different then s business just because you understand what runs in a Tesla company or Twitter doesn't translate to understand how a government functions and usually running companies involve a large amount of debt to

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Mid-KnightRider
Jun 7, 2025
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#62
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today Volkswagon is considered a normal car company, even though it was founded by Hitler, how could Tesla be worse?

Never said Tesla wasn't a good company just that Elon isn't great and that leads to his other businesses not doing ss well as they could be but your also forgetting Tesla is a fairly stable company which means it's hard to crssh

Elon has definately taken a few missteps, but, he's not as bad as hitler.

Bro that's not an excuse you go into politics and manage to get more then 50% of people to dislike you I think there's a pretty good reason for that...

There are also a few reasons to hate Hitler, Volkswagon is doing fine, soon DOGE will be left in the dust, and tesla will do better than ever.

Prob if Elon gets fired then yes I bet Tesla would do fine

Then why did the stock spike when Elon said he eyes still being CEO in 5 years?

Explain the drop in Tesla sales then... It isn't all about stock prices but ev sales are going up ?

Europes mad they have to pay for their own defense.

Nah more like us breaking it's promises

We spend billions of dollars on Europe's defense each year, while they hardly invest any money because they know we will be their dummy and picl up the slack. Trump geniously got them to spend 800 billion on their defense, meaning that we could cut defense costs, then he raised defense spending. What promises have we broken, this is a one sided realtionship, they can tariff us, we can't tariff them, they can mess with Russia and we have to defend them, they can do whatever they want, and we have to fix it, people tell you to get out of one way abusive reationships, why shouldn't the US do the same?

Has military spending deceased in the trump administration ? Or did it increase during trump...

If so your argument isn't a good one

I literally just complained that we increased defense when we had a perfect oppurtunity to decrease it.

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Jun 7, 2025
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#63
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if musk was 2200 I would be concerned as a potential tesla investor that he is ignoring them.

Musk disappearing to play chess would be the second best thing for Tesla.

(The best thing would have been if he did that a year ago).

I have to disagree there, Tesla has so much potential, robotaxis, humanoids, and more, we need Musk working on that, who cares if he knows how to play chess, he knows how to run a company and get things done.

Big man ruin potential

nah, they still look strong, especially him leaving DOGE and his breakup with Trump, Volkswagon was founded by real NAZIs and they are doing just fine.

Nah it just makes more people hate him lol

You underestimate billionaires investments only reason stock is still ok ish

Let me be blunt, we have 37 trillion dollars of national debt, and nobody cares, Bernie Sanders will be dead by the time we have to pay the consequences, so will most people pumping the debt, that's why they do it, Musk as a savvy buisinessman sees "No functional company would have this much debt, let me go fix it" and does likewise, congress and everyone hates him for it. I am young enough that I will have to pay the consequences for our mountain of debt, and thus take the issue much more seriously than people like Sanders and even Trump. To me Musk is a superhero, he cares enough that our country is falling off the rails to sacrifice his reputation and billions of dollars in order to try and fix it. When we have more debt than any of us can comprehend, drastic measures are needed.

You do realize gutting the programs that make stuff more stable isn't exactly the right way to deal with debt .... All your doing is causing chaos and making the situation worse

You would be ineffably naive if you said that the 37 trillion dollars of debt (And I'll admit Trump is responsible for a large chunk of it) will be solved without chaos. It is larger than our GDP and I am done with this, because I am gonna have to pay for this. Musk have been finding a lot of waste, but all the RINOs won't eliminate it, because they know they will be dead by the time we have ot pay for it, we need an age limit.

A better idea could be increasing taxes without gutting programs (NOT terrifs though ) that's basically taxes but goodbye money

Have you heard of the Laffer curve? I think we do need to cut government waste, I do not think you understand 37 trillion dollars, and growing even more now thanks to DC.

You can't just pay off debt by saving money you have to make more to at least debt in large quantities

If I make 6 thousand a month and spend 7 thousand a month, and am pretty work occupied, I should probably look to cut at least 1200 off my budget, agreed, I am not saying we need to stop collecting taxes, but getting more won't work, I would recommend you look at the laffer curve, people will find it even harder to make a living, and leave the country, thus raising our income from them to $0.

That's on an individual level not ona government level

Appt of the programs that Elon or Trump likes to cut actually bring people out of poverty or protect people when they do go into debt

You can't just decrease spending on things like education (which even if not profitable at first makes a good chunk of money ) the debts so large where just cutting stuff doesn't work now when our also making less money

You cut 1200 from 7200 but that's making let's say 2400 your losing 1200

I hate our education system, it doesn't work. Period. I went out of 5th grade, I didn't know what Canada was, but I knew all the reasons that the US was evil, and should be terminated, we are paying unskilled people who hate our country to pass that hate down to the next generation.

It does suck because a certain group of people keep on defunding it and then blame it on the wrong things when it fails and don't give the teachers materials that they actually need

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Mid-KnightRider
Jun 7, 2025
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#64
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today Volkswagon is considered a normal car company, even though it was founded by Hitler, how could Tesla be worse?

Never said Tesla wasn't a good company just that Elon isn't great and that leads to his other businesses not doing ss well as they could be but your also forgetting Tesla is a fairly stable company which means it's hard to crssh

Elon has definately taken a few missteps, but, he's not as bad as hitler.

Bro that's not an excuse you go into politics and manage to get more then 50% of people to dislike you I think there's a pretty good reason for that...

There are also a few reasons to hate Hitler, Volkswagon is doing fine, soon DOGE will be left in the dust, and tesla will do better than ever.

Prob if Elon gets fired then yes I bet Tesla would do fine

Then why did the stock spike when Elon said he eyes still being CEO in 5 years?

Explain the drop in Tesla sales then... It isn't all about stock prices but ev sales are going up ?

People don't appreciate that Musk actually cares that our country will be bankrupt in 10 years, and decided to boycott. Smart investors know it is hard it's days are numbered.

No it's just that he's a business man not a person that actually understands fiscal policy incompetency when dealing with debt is catastrophic

It's not that he cares it's how he's doing it

well he is doing it, nobody else in DC frickin cares that we ahve trillions of dollars of debt, he understands the policy, and the policy kills him everytime, the senators don't want our country to do better than china, so they keep us tangled in debt.

Well elect people who's actually want to do it then and again governments function different then s business just because you understand what runs in a Tesla company or Twitter doesn't translate to understand how a government functions and usually running companies involve a large amount of debt to

well the people don't frickin care either, because we have left them ignorant, your saying we should elect people like musk?

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BigChessplayer665
Jun 7, 2025
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#65
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today Volkswagon is considered a normal car company, even though it was founded by Hitler, how could Tesla be worse?

Never said Tesla wasn't a good company just that Elon isn't great and that leads to his other businesses not doing ss well as they could be but your also forgetting Tesla is a fairly stable company which means it's hard to crssh

Elon has definately taken a few missteps, but, he's not as bad as hitler.

Bro that's not an excuse you go into politics and manage to get more then 50% of people to dislike you I think there's a pretty good reason for that...

There are also a few reasons to hate Hitler, Volkswagon is doing fine, soon DOGE will be left in the dust, and tesla will do better than ever.

Prob if Elon gets fired then yes I bet Tesla would do fine

Then why did the stock spike when Elon said he eyes still being CEO in 5 years?

Explain the drop in Tesla sales then... It isn't all about stock prices but ev sales are going up ?

Europes mad they have to pay for their own defense.

Nah more like us breaking it's promises

We spend billions of dollars on Europe's defense each year, while they hardly invest any money because they know we will be their dummy and picl up the slack. Trump geniously got them to spend 800 billion on their defense, meaning that we could cut defense costs, then he raised defense spending. What promises have we broken, this is a one sided realtionship, they can tariff us, we can't tariff them, they can mess with Russia and we have to defend them, they can do whatever they want, and we have to fix it, people tell you to get out of one way abusive reationships, why shouldn't the US do the same?

Has military spending deceased in the trump administration ? Or did it increase during trump...

If so your argument isn't a good one

I literally just complained that we increased defense when we had a perfect oppurtunity to decrease it.

Actually selling to European neighbors is profitable for the srmy if anything diverting it decreases profitablity and increases the amount we have to do

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Mid-KnightRider
Jun 7, 2025
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#66
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Mid-KnightRider wrote:
magipi wrote:
Mid-KnightRider wrote:

if musk was 2200 I would be concerned as a potential tesla investor that he is ignoring them.

Musk disappearing to play chess would be the second best thing for Tesla.

(The best thing would have been if he did that a year ago).

I have to disagree there, Tesla has so much potential, robotaxis, humanoids, and more, we need Musk working on that, who cares if he knows how to play chess, he knows how to run a company and get things done.

Big man ruin potential

nah, they still look strong, especially him leaving DOGE and his breakup with Trump, Volkswagon was founded by real NAZIs and they are doing just fine.

Nah it just makes more people hate him lol

You underestimate billionaires investments only reason stock is still ok ish

Let me be blunt, we have 37 trillion dollars of national debt, and nobody cares, Bernie Sanders will be dead by the time we have to pay the consequences, so will most people pumping the debt, that's why they do it, Musk as a savvy buisinessman sees "No functional company would have this much debt, let me go fix it" and does likewise, congress and everyone hates him for it. I am young enough that I will have to pay the consequences for our mountain of debt, and thus take the issue much more seriously than people like Sanders and even Trump. To me Musk is a superhero, he cares enough that our country is falling off the rails to sacrifice his reputation and billions of dollars in order to try and fix it. When we have more debt than any of us can comprehend, drastic measures are needed.

You do realize gutting the programs that make stuff more stable isn't exactly the right way to deal with debt .... All your doing is causing chaos and making the situation worse

You would be ineffably naive if you said that the 37 trillion dollars of debt (And I'll admit Trump is responsible for a large chunk of it) will be solved without chaos. It is larger than our GDP and I am done with this, because I am gonna have to pay for this. Musk have been finding a lot of waste, but all the RINOs won't eliminate it, because they know they will be dead by the time we have ot pay for it, we need an age limit.

A better idea could be increasing taxes without gutting programs (NOT terrifs though ) that's basically taxes but goodbye money

Have you heard of the Laffer curve? I think we do need to cut government waste, I do not think you understand 37 trillion dollars, and growing even more now thanks to DC.

You can't just pay off debt by saving money you have to make more to at least debt in large quantities

If I make 6 thousand a month and spend 7 thousand a month, and am pretty work occupied, I should probably look to cut at least 1200 off my budget, agreed, I am not saying we need to stop collecting taxes, but getting more won't work, I would recommend you look at the laffer curve, people will find it even harder to make a living, and leave the country, thus raising our income from them to $0.

That's on an individual level not ona government level

Appt of the programs that Elon or Trump likes to cut actually bring people out of poverty or protect people when they do go into debt

You can't just decrease spending on things like education (which even if not profitable at first makes a good chunk of money ) the debts so large where just cutting stuff doesn't work now when our also making less money

You cut 1200 from 7200 but that's making let's say 2400 your losing 1200

I hate our education system, it doesn't work. Period. I went out of 5th grade, I didn't know what Canada was, but I knew all the reasons that the US was evil, and should be terminated, we are paying unskilled people who hate our country to pass that hate down to the next generation.

It does suck because a certain group of people keep on defunding it and then blame it on the wrong things when it fails and don't give the teachers materials that they actually need

Look at the grades, our students are failing, and our teachers wages keep getting raised, and we keep hiring more people who don't care, what makes me wrong? I know first hand the problems with this education system.

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Jun 7, 2025
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#67
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today Volkswagon is considered a normal car company, even though it was founded by Hitler, how could Tesla be worse?

Never said Tesla wasn't a good company just that Elon isn't great and that leads to his other businesses not doing ss well as they could be but your also forgetting Tesla is a fairly stable company which means it's hard to crssh

Elon has definately taken a few missteps, but, he's not as bad as hitler.

Bro that's not an excuse you go into politics and manage to get more then 50% of people to dislike you I think there's a pretty good reason for that...

There are also a few reasons to hate Hitler, Volkswagon is doing fine, soon DOGE will be left in the dust, and tesla will do better than ever.

Prob if Elon gets fired then yes I bet Tesla would do fine

Then why did the stock spike when Elon said he eyes still being CEO in 5 years?

Explain the drop in Tesla sales then... It isn't all about stock prices but ev sales are going up ?

People don't appreciate that Musk actually cares that our country will be bankrupt in 10 years, and decided to boycott. Smart investors know it is hard it's days are numbered.

No it's just that he's a business man not a person that actually understands fiscal policy incompetency when dealing with debt is catastrophic

It's not that he cares it's how he's doing it

well he is doing it, nobody else in DC frickin cares that we ahve trillions of dollars of debt, he understands the policy, and the policy kills him everytime, the senators don't want our country to do better than china, so they keep us tangled in debt.

Well elect people who's actually want to do it then and again governments function different then s business just because you understand what runs in a Tesla company or Twitter doesn't translate to understand how a government functions and usually running companies involve a large amount of debt to

well the people don't frickin care either, because we have left them ignorant, your saying we should elect people like musk?

No but we should elect people who know how to run a government

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Mid-KnightRider
Jun 7, 2025
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#68
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today Volkswagon is considered a normal car company, even though it was founded by Hitler, how could Tesla be worse?

Never said Tesla wasn't a good company just that Elon isn't great and that leads to his other businesses not doing ss well as they could be but your also forgetting Tesla is a fairly stable company which means it's hard to crssh

Elon has definately taken a few missteps, but, he's not as bad as hitler.

Bro that's not an excuse you go into politics and manage to get more then 50% of people to dislike you I think there's a pretty good reason for that...

There are also a few reasons to hate Hitler, Volkswagon is doing fine, soon DOGE will be left in the dust, and tesla will do better than ever.

Prob if Elon gets fired then yes I bet Tesla would do fine

Then why did the stock spike when Elon said he eyes still being CEO in 5 years?

Explain the drop in Tesla sales then... It isn't all about stock prices but ev sales are going up ?

Europes mad they have to pay for their own defense.

Nah more like us breaking it's promises

We spend billions of dollars on Europe's defense each year, while they hardly invest any money because they know we will be their dummy and picl up the slack. Trump geniously got them to spend 800 billion on their defense, meaning that we could cut defense costs, then he raised defense spending. What promises have we broken, this is a one sided realtionship, they can tariff us, we can't tariff them, they can mess with Russia and we have to defend them, they can do whatever they want, and we have to fix it, people tell you to get out of one way abusive reationships, why shouldn't the US do the same?

Has military spending deceased in the trump administration ? Or did it increase during trump...

If so your argument isn't a good one

I literally just complained that we increased defense when we had a perfect oppurtunity to decrease it.

Actually selling to European neighbors is profitable for the srmy if anything diverting it decreases profitablity and increases the amount we have to do

you are assuming they are gonna pay us. Why didn't Zelensky accept the rare earth minerals deal?

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Mid-KnightRider
Jun 7, 2025
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#69
BigChessplayer665 wrote:
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Mid-KnightRider wrote:

today Volkswagon is considered a normal car company, even though it was founded by Hitler, how could Tesla be worse?

Never said Tesla wasn't a good company just that Elon isn't great and that leads to his other businesses not doing ss well as they could be but your also forgetting Tesla is a fairly stable company which means it's hard to crssh

Elon has definately taken a few missteps, but, he's not as bad as hitler.

Bro that's not an excuse you go into politics and manage to get more then 50% of people to dislike you I think there's a pretty good reason for that...

There are also a few reasons to hate Hitler, Volkswagon is doing fine, soon DOGE will be left in the dust, and tesla will do better than ever.

Prob if Elon gets fired then yes I bet Tesla would do fine

Then why did the stock spike when Elon said he eyes still being CEO in 5 years?

Explain the drop in Tesla sales then... It isn't all about stock prices but ev sales are going up ?

People don't appreciate that Musk actually cares that our country will be bankrupt in 10 years, and decided to boycott. Smart investors know it is hard it's days are numbered.

No it's just that he's a business man not a person that actually understands fiscal policy incompetency when dealing with debt is catastrophic

It's not that he cares it's how he's doing it

well he is doing it, nobody else in DC frickin cares that we ahve trillions of dollars of debt, he understands the policy, and the policy kills him everytime, the senators don't want our country to do better than china, so they keep us tangled in debt.

Well elect people who's actually want to do it then and again governments function different then s business just because you understand what runs in a Tesla company or Twitter doesn't translate to understand how a government functions and usually running companies involve a large amount of debt to

well the people don't frickin care either, because we have left them ignorant, your saying we should elect people like musk?

No but we should elect people who know how to run a government

Musk has proven himself sucessful time and time again, people don't want someone who will run the government, they want someone who will drive up the defeceit for the next generation so they can get more free stuff.

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Jun 7, 2025
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#70
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magipi wrote:
Mid-KnightRider wrote:

if musk was 2200 I would be concerned as a potential tesla investor that he is ignoring them.

Musk disappearing to play chess would be the second best thing for Tesla.

(The best thing would have been if he did that a year ago).

I have to disagree there, Tesla has so much potential, robotaxis, humanoids, and more, we need Musk working on that, who cares if he knows how to play chess, he knows how to run a company and get things done.

Big man ruin potential

nah, they still look strong, especially him leaving DOGE and his breakup with Trump, Volkswagon was founded by real NAZIs and they are doing just fine.

Nah it just makes more people hate him lol

You underestimate billionaires investments only reason stock is still ok ish

Let me be blunt, we have 37 trillion dollars of national debt, and nobody cares, Bernie Sanders will be dead by the time we have to pay the consequences, so will most people pumping the debt, that's why they do it, Musk as a savvy buisinessman sees "No functional company would have this much debt, let me go fix it" and does likewise, congress and everyone hates him for it. I am young enough that I will have to pay the consequences for our mountain of debt, and thus take the issue much more seriously than people like Sanders and even Trump. To me Musk is a superhero, he cares enough that our country is falling off the rails to sacrifice his reputation and billions of dollars in order to try and fix it. When we have more debt than any of us can comprehend, drastic measures are needed.

You do realize gutting the programs that make stuff more stable isn't exactly the right way to deal with debt .... All your doing is causing chaos and making the situation worse

You would be ineffably naive if you said that the 37 trillion dollars of debt (And I'll admit Trump is responsible for a large chunk of it) will be solved without chaos. It is larger than our GDP and I am done with this, because I am gonna have to pay for this. Musk have been finding a lot of waste, but all the RINOs won't eliminate it, because they know they will be dead by the time we have ot pay for it, we need an age limit.

A better idea could be increasing taxes without gutting programs (NOT terrifs though ) that's basically taxes but goodbye money

Have you heard of the Laffer curve? I think we do need to cut government waste, I do not think you understand 37 trillion dollars, and growing even more now thanks to DC.

You can't just pay off debt by saving money you have to make more to at least debt in large quantities

If I make 6 thousand a month and spend 7 thousand a month, and am pretty work occupied, I should probably look to cut at least 1200 off my budget, agreed, I am not saying we need to stop collecting taxes, but getting more won't work, I would recommend you look at the laffer curve, people will find it even harder to make a living, and leave the country, thus raising our income from them to $0.

That's on an individual level not ona government level

Appt of the programs that Elon or Trump likes to cut actually bring people out of poverty or protect people when they do go into debt

You can't just decrease spending on things like education (which even if not profitable at first makes a good chunk of money ) the debts so large where just cutting stuff doesn't work now when our also making less money

You cut 1200 from 7200 but that's making let's say 2400 your losing 1200

I hate our education system, it doesn't work. Period. I went out of 5th grade, I didn't know what Canada was, but I knew all the reasons that the US was evil, and should be terminated, we are paying unskilled people who hate our country to pass that hate down to the next generation.

It does suck because a certain group of people keep on defunding it and then blame it on the wrong things when it fails and don't give the teachers materials that they actually need

Look at the grades, our students are failing, and our teachers wages keep getting raised, and we keep hiring more people who don't care, what makes me wrong? I know first hand the problems with this education system.

Well increase the requirements instead of highering people who won't know what they'd re talking about literally in NC a repiblican house just lowered the requirements to get highered for teaching to be basically non-existent

But yes teachers are underpaid

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Jun 7, 2025
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#71
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today Volkswagon is considered a normal car company, even though it was founded by Hitler, how could Tesla be worse?

Never said Tesla wasn't a good company just that Elon isn't great and that leads to his other businesses not doing ss well as they could be but your also forgetting Tesla is a fairly stable company which means it's hard to crssh

Elon has definately taken a few missteps, but, he's not as bad as hitler.

Bro that's not an excuse you go into politics and manage to get more then 50% of people to dislike you I think there's a pretty good reason for that...

There are also a few reasons to hate Hitler, Volkswagon is doing fine, soon DOGE will be left in the dust, and tesla will do better than ever.

Prob if Elon gets fired then yes I bet Tesla would do fine

Then why did the stock spike when Elon said he eyes still being CEO in 5 years?

Explain the drop in Tesla sales then... It isn't all about stock prices but ev sales are going up ?

People don't appreciate that Musk actually cares that our country will be bankrupt in 10 years, and decided to boycott. Smart investors know it is hard it's days are numbered.

No it's just that he's a business man not a person that actually understands fiscal policy incompetency when dealing with debt is catastrophic

It's not that he cares it's how he's doing it

well he is doing it, nobody else in DC frickin cares that we ahve trillions of dollars of debt, he understands the policy, and the policy kills him everytime, the senators don't want our country to do better than china, so they keep us tangled in debt.

Well elect people who's actually want to do it then and again governments function different then s business just because you understand what runs in a Tesla company or Twitter doesn't translate to understand how a government functions and usually running companies involve a large amount of debt to

well the people don't frickin care either, because we have left them ignorant, your saying we should elect people like musk?

No but we should elect people who know how to run a government

Musk has proven himself sucessful time and time again, people don't want someone who will run the government, they want someone who will drive up the defeceit for the next generation so they can get more free stuff.

Not rly that successful if I remember he only saved a few billion dollars when r gutted say more it's inefficient(and lost more)

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Mid-KnightRider wrote:
BigChessplayer665 wrote:
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today Volkswagon is considered a normal car company, even though it was founded by Hitler, how could Tesla be worse?

Never said Tesla wasn't a good company just that Elon isn't great and that leads to his other businesses not doing ss well as they could be but your also forgetting Tesla is a fairly stable company which means it's hard to crssh

Elon has definately taken a few missteps, but, he's not as bad as hitler.

Bro that's not an excuse you go into politics and manage to get more then 50% of people to dislike you I think there's a pretty good reason for that...

There are also a few reasons to hate Hitler, Volkswagon is doing fine, soon DOGE will be left in the dust, and tesla will do better than ever.

Prob if Elon gets fired then yes I bet Tesla would do fine

Then why did the stock spike when Elon said he eyes still being CEO in 5 years?

Explain the drop in Tesla sales then... It isn't all about stock prices but ev sales are going up ?

Europes mad they have to pay for their own defense.

Nah more like us breaking it's promises

We spend billions of dollars on Europe's defense each year, while they hardly invest any money because they know we will be their dummy and picl up the slack. Trump geniously got them to spend 800 billion on their defense, meaning that we could cut defense costs, then he raised defense spending. What promises have we broken, this is a one sided realtionship, they can tariff us, we can't tariff them, they can mess with Russia and we have to defend them, they can do whatever they want, and we have to fix it, people tell you to get out of one way abusive reationships, why shouldn't the US do the same?

Has military spending deceased in the trump administration ? Or did it increase during trump...

If so your argument isn't a good one

I literally just complained that we increased defense when we had a perfect oppurtunity to decrease it.

Actually selling to European neighbors is profitable for the srmy if anything diverting it decreases profitablity and increases the amount we have to do

you are assuming they are gonna pay us. Why didn't Zelensky accept the rare earth minerals deal?

He did but the first draft basically made Ukraine an indentured servant how is that fair ?

Actually it's cost efficient for us anyway we get to gut military equipment that's just sitting there costing maintenance

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Mid-KnightRider
Jun 7, 2025
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Is it unreasonable that I do not want to inherit a mountain and a half of debt?

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Mid-KnightRider wrote:

Is it unreasonable that I do not want to inherit a mountain and a half of debt?

The reason is fair the execution is not

It's a different thing to want something and then to do it entirely

But debt isn't even our biggest issue we need to fix other issues first which isn't happening

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Mid-KnightRider
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#75
BigChessplayer665 wrote:
Mid-KnightRider wrote:
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BigChessplayer665 wrote:
Mid-KnightRider wrote:
BigChessplayer665 wrote:
Mid-KnightRider wrote:

today Volkswagon is considered a normal car company, even though it was founded by Hitler, how could Tesla be worse?

Never said Tesla wasn't a good company just that Elon isn't great and that leads to his other businesses not doing ss well as they could be but your also forgetting Tesla is a fairly stable company which means it's hard to crssh

Elon has definately taken a few missteps, but, he's not as bad as hitler.

Bro that's not an excuse you go into politics and manage to get more then 50% of people to dislike you I think there's a pretty good reason for that...

There are also a few reasons to hate Hitler, Volkswagon is doing fine, soon DOGE will be left in the dust, and tesla will do better than ever.

Prob if Elon gets fired then yes I bet Tesla would do fine

Then why did the stock spike when Elon said he eyes still being CEO in 5 years?

Explain the drop in Tesla sales then... It isn't all about stock prices but ev sales are going up ?

Europes mad they have to pay for their own defense.

Nah more like us breaking it's promises

We spend billions of dollars on Europe's defense each year, while they hardly invest any money because they know we will be their dummy and picl up the slack. Trump geniously got them to spend 800 billion on their defense, meaning that we could cut defense costs, then he raised defense spending. What promises have we broken, this is a one sided realtionship, they can tariff us, we can't tariff them, they can mess with Russia and we have to defend them, they can do whatever they want, and we have to fix it, people tell you to get out of one way abusive reationships, why shouldn't the US do the same?

Has military spending deceased in the trump administration ? Or did it increase during trump...

If so your argument isn't a good one

I literally just complained that we increased defense when we had a perfect oppurtunity to decrease it.

Actually selling to European neighbors is profitable for the srmy if anything diverting it decreases profitablity and increases the amount we have to do

you are assuming they are gonna pay us. Why didn't Zelensky accept the rare earth minerals deal?

He did but the first draft basically made Ukraine an indentured servant how is that fair ?

Actually it's cost efficient for us anyway we get to gut military equipment that's just sitting there costing maintenance

we are not giving them the stuff collecting dust, Biden even wanted to deploy soldiers at some point. If Zelensky were smart, he would see that having american citizens who work for the government would make Ukraine more safe, but he didn't. It is fair because we are covering all the costs of the war, and even beffing up his wallet a little, if he doesn't want that, well there is another fair scenario, you pay for your country and we'll pay for ours.

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Mid-KnightRider
Jun 7, 2025
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BigChessplayer665 wrote:
Mid-KnightRider wrote:

Is it unreasonable that I do not want to inherit a mountain and a half of debt?

The reason is fair the execution is not

It's a different thing to want something and then to do it entirely

But debt isn't even our biggest issue we need to fix other issues first which isn't happening

we are fixing our problems, immigration? Covered in the BBB. Education? covered in the BBB. Cheap energy? Covered in the BBB. All we are missing is the debt.

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Mid-KnightRider
Jun 7, 2025
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MaestroDelAjedrez2025 wrote:

I don't even know if Elon Musk knows how to play chess

exactly

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#78
Mid-KnightRider wrote:
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Mid-KnightRider wrote:
BigChessplayer665 wrote:
Mid-KnightRider wrote:
BigChessplayer665 wrote:
Mid-KnightRider wrote:

today Volkswagon is considered a normal car company, even though it was founded by Hitler, how could Tesla be worse?

Never said Tesla wasn't a good company just that Elon isn't great and that leads to his other businesses not doing ss well as they could be but your also forgetting Tesla is a fairly stable company which means it's hard to crssh

Elon has definately taken a few missteps, but, he's not as bad as hitler.

Bro that's not an excuse you go into politics and manage to get more then 50% of people to dislike you I think there's a pretty good reason for that...

There are also a few reasons to hate Hitler, Volkswagon is doing fine, soon DOGE will be left in the dust, and tesla will do better than ever.

Prob if Elon gets fired then yes I bet Tesla would do fine

Then why did the stock spike when Elon said he eyes still being CEO in 5 years?

Explain the drop in Tesla sales then... It isn't all about stock prices but ev sales are going up ?

Europes mad they have to pay for their own defense.

Nah more like us breaking it's promises

We spend billions of dollars on Europe's defense each year, while they hardly invest any money because they know we will be their dummy and picl up the slack. Trump geniously got them to spend 800 billion on their defense, meaning that we could cut defense costs, then he raised defense spending. What promises have we broken, this is a one sided realtionship, they can tariff us, we can't tariff them, they can mess with Russia and we have to defend them, they can do whatever they want, and we have to fix it, people tell you to get out of one way abusive reationships, why shouldn't the US do the same?

Has military spending deceased in the trump administration ? Or did it increase during trump...

If so your argument isn't a good one

I literally just complained that we increased defense when we had a perfect oppurtunity to decrease it.

Actually selling to European neighbors is profitable for the srmy if anything diverting it decreases profitablity and increases the amount we have to do

you are assuming they are gonna pay us. Why didn't Zelensky accept the rare earth minerals deal?

He did but the first draft basically made Ukraine an indentured servant how is that fair ?

Actually it's cost efficient for us anyway we get to gut military equipment that's just sitting there costing maintenance

we are not giving them the stuff collecting dust, Biden even wanted to deploy soldiers at some point. If Zelensky were smart, he would see that having american citizens who work for the government would make Ukraine more safe, but he didn't. It is fair because we are covering all the costs of the war, and even beffing up his wallet a little, if he doesn't want that, well there is another fair scenario, you pay for your country and we'll pay for ours.

Europe's still doing just as much if not more than us collectively besides im not going into specifics for why he didn't do the first deal but he actually signed the last draft after the us gave up on full veto power and gave it to Ukraine

The us also gave an unconstitutional draft for Ukraine to which means they couldn't sign it even if they wanted to

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Jun 7, 2025
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BigChessplayer665 wrote:
Mid-KnightRider wrote:
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BigChessplayer665 wrote:
Mid-KnightRider wrote:
BigChessplayer665 wrote:
Mid-KnightRider wrote:
BigChessplayer665 wrote:
Mid-KnightRider wrote:

today Volkswagon is considered a normal car company, even though it was founded by Hitler, how could Tesla be worse?

Never said Tesla wasn't a good company just that Elon isn't great and that leads to his other businesses not doing ss well as they could be but your also forgetting Tesla is a fairly stable company which means it's hard to crssh

Elon has definately taken a few missteps, but, he's not as bad as hitler.

Bro that's not an excuse you go into politics and manage to get more then 50% of people to dislike you I think there's a pretty good reason for that...

There are also a few reasons to hate Hitler, Volkswagon is doing fine, soon DOGE will be left in the dust, and tesla will do better than ever.

Prob if Elon gets fired then yes I bet Tesla would do fine

Then why did the stock spike when Elon said he eyes still being CEO in 5 years?

Explain the drop in Tesla sales then... It isn't all about stock prices but ev sales are going up ?

Europes mad they have to pay for their own defense.

Nah more like us breaking it's promises

We spend billions of dollars on Europe's defense each year, while they hardly invest any money because they know we will be their dummy and picl up the slack. Trump geniously got them to spend 800 billion on their defense, meaning that we could cut defense costs, then he raised defense spending. What promises have we broken, this is a one sided realtionship, they can tariff us, we can't tariff them, they can mess with Russia and we have to defend them, they can do whatever they want, and we have to fix it, people tell you to get out of one way abusive reationships, why shouldn't the US do the same?

Has military spending deceased in the trump administration ? Or did it increase during trump...

If so your argument isn't a good one

I literally just complained that we increased defense when we had a perfect oppurtunity to decrease it.

Actually selling to European neighbors is profitable for the srmy if anything diverting it decreases profitablity and increases the amount we have to do

you are assuming they are gonna pay us. Why didn't Zelensky accept the rare earth minerals deal?

He did but the first draft basically made Ukraine an indentured servant how is that fair ?

Actually it's cost efficient for us anyway we get to gut military equipment that's just sitting there costing maintenance

we are not giving them the stuff collecting dust, Biden even wanted to deploy soldiers at some point. If Zelensky were smart, he would see that having american citizens who work for the government would make Ukraine more safe, but he didn't. It is fair because we are covering all the costs of the war, and even beffing up his wallet a little, if he doesn't want that, well there is another fair scenario, you pay for your country and we'll pay for ours.

Europe's still doing just as much if not more than us collectively besides.im not going into specifics for why he didn't do the first deal but he actually signed the last draft after the us gave up on full veto people and gave it to Ukraine

The us also gave an unconstitutional draft for Ukraine to which means they couldn't sign it even if they wanted to

That's not true, we paid the lion's share of Europe's war, and what do we get in exchange? Great Britan returning the favor and helping us fight iranian terrorists in the middle east. Oh wait, that never happened.

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Mid-KnightRider wrote:
BigChessplayer665 wrote:
Mid-KnightRider wrote:
BigChessplayer665 wrote:
Mid-KnightRider wrote:
BigChessplayer665 wrote:
Mid-KnightRider wrote:
BigChessplayer665 wrote:
Mid-KnightRider wrote:
BigChessplayer665 wrote:
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BigChessplayer665 wrote:
Mid-KnightRider wrote:
BigChessplayer665 wrote:
Mid-KnightRider wrote:
BigChessplayer665 wrote:
Mid-KnightRider wrote:
BigChessplayer665 wrote:
Mid-KnightRider wrote:

today Volkswagon is considered a normal car company, even though it was founded by Hitler, how could Tesla be worse?

Never said Tesla wasn't a good company just that Elon isn't great and that leads to his other businesses not doing ss well as they could be but your also forgetting Tesla is a fairly stable company which means it's hard to crssh

Elon has definately taken a few missteps, but, he's not as bad as hitler.

Bro that's not an excuse you go into politics and manage to get more then 50% of people to dislike you I think there's a pretty good reason for that...

There are also a few reasons to hate Hitler, Volkswagon is doing fine, soon DOGE will be left in the dust, and tesla will do better than ever.

Prob if Elon gets fired then yes I bet Tesla would do fine

Then why did the stock spike when Elon said he eyes still being CEO in 5 years?

Explain the drop in Tesla sales then... It isn't all about stock prices but ev sales are going up ?

Europes mad they have to pay for their own defense.

Nah more like us breaking it's promises

We spend billions of dollars on Europe's defense each year, while they hardly invest any money because they know we will be their dummy and picl up the slack. Trump geniously got them to spend 800 billion on their defense, meaning that we could cut defense costs, then he raised defense spending. What promises have we broken, this is a one sided realtionship, they can tariff us, we can't tariff them, they can mess with Russia and we have to defend them, they can do whatever they want, and we have to fix it, people tell you to get out of one way abusive reationships, why shouldn't the US do the same?

Has military spending deceased in the trump administration ? Or did it increase during trump...

If so your argument isn't a good one

I literally just complained that we increased defense when we had a perfect oppurtunity to decrease it.

Actually selling to European neighbors is profitable for the srmy if anything diverting it decreases profitablity and increases the amount we have to do

you are assuming they are gonna pay us. Why didn't Zelensky accept the rare earth minerals deal?

He did but the first draft basically made Ukraine an indentured servant how is that fair ?

Actually it's cost efficient for us anyway we get to gut military equipment that's just sitting there costing maintenance

we are not giving them the stuff collecting dust, Biden even wanted to deploy soldiers at some point. If Zelensky were smart, he would see that having american citizens who work for the government would make Ukraine more safe, but he didn't. It is fair because we are covering all the costs of the war, and even beffing up his wallet a little, if he doesn't want that, well there is another fair scenario, you pay for your country and we'll pay for ours.

Europe's still doing just as much if not more than us collectively besides.im not going into specifics for why he didn't do the first deal but he actually signed the last draft after the us gave up on full veto people and gave it to Ukraine

The us also gave an unconstitutional draft for Ukraine to which means they couldn't sign it even if they wanted to

That's not true, we paid the lion's share of Europe's war, and what do we get in exchange? Great Britan returning the favor and helping us fight iranian terrorists in the middle east. Oh wait, that never happened.

Boohoo

What we get in return is 30+% of Russia's nuclear fleet blown up we get a safer world for everyone

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