erik, we are frustrated
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it happens. conversations evolve. i've started many topics where others chime in and the ebb and flow takes it to a place where the original title/thoughts have been passed by or have ended.
no issue there.
here, though, it is. of all the topics that are tongue in cheek (and i've posted many myself), this is not one of them.
GMproposedsolutions wrote:
llama wrote:
By the way, my answer is this.
The way my brain works is I want to first determine the state of holding 7 cards, 4 of which are stars. So I do the permutation 7p4 which is 840. This is my numerator, i.e. the winning states.
We divide this by the total number of states of 7 cards -- which for a deck of 40 is:
40*39*38*37*36*35*34
Then the chance of the 8th card being a star is 1 in 33.
So it's 840 / (40*39*38*37*36*35*34*33)
I posted the path in working with 52 cards as the original problem was posed, with correction but in using a total of 40 cards and the rest the same:
35C3*5C4/40C7*1/33=35/658008, different than 840 / (40*39*38*37*36*35*34*33)=1/3691424880
had the second portion been more complicated, the form used would be:
35C3*5C4/40C7 * 33C0*1C1/33C1
please make a different topic about your math problem(s).
Sep 18, 2020
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#865
The denominator 40C7 makes sense because that's all the different ways you can draw 7 cards out of 40 (order not mattering).
And I can see 35C3 is because out of 35 blank cards you want 3
And I can see 5C4 is because out of 5 star cards you want 4
But we don't draw from a stack of 35 and then a stack 5 independently. They're mixed together.
So you can count the instances of drawing 3 blank cards (3C7) and put that as the numerator (and then do the probability of 8th card NOT being a star)
Or you can count the instances of drawing 4 star cards (4C7) and put that as the numerator (and then do the probability of the 8th card being a star)
In both cases the denominator is 7C40 but the numerator is, I think, never 35C3 and 5C4 multiplied together.
@AlCzervik sorry bro. AFAIK me and GMproposed have both blocked each other so this is the easiest way to do it.
Sep 19, 2020
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#866
Well, lets do it with a known value to check the method. Lets calculate the chance of being dealt a royal flush in poker.
5C0 / 52C5
Gives the probability for 1 suit. Then multiply by 4 since there are 4 different ways to do it.
In other words it's never something like 5C1*5C*15C1*5C1*5C1 / 52C5
Sep 19, 2020
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#867
GMproposedsolutions wrote:
no more of this here.
ok, and FWIW I unblocked you
Sep 19, 2020
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#868
Ah, my settings might be messed up so you can't message me.
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Ok, I tired a different case with a known value. Your method worked and mine didn't. Now that I look at it your answer makes sense. I'm glad I asked.
llama wrote:
@AlCzervik sorry bro. AFAIK me and GMproposed have both blocked each other so this is the easiest way to do it.
this is why blocking sucks. not that there are times it is needed.
you and he have taken what appears to be a previous conversation about a math problem, which would normally pique my interest, into a topic about site issues.
i appreciate you apologizing, but it is not necessary. i've only read you here for about ten years, going back to the orangehonda account (always loved that handle)
rishabh11great wrote:
BTW, I am at 2999 points !
this is not the topic to get virtual adoration based on points.
Sep 19, 2020
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#872
do they have beds of nails in India with that many points ? could be one with acupuncture needles.
Sep 19, 2020
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#873
erik wrote:
badenwurtca wrote:
Yes I also feel that the system needs to be improved. For example it might be possible to put some sort of a time limit on the power of the auto-bots. That is to say if something comes to the attention of an auto-bot regarding a member who has been here more than say 2 years ( or 3 years ? ) then instead of muting the said member perhaps the auto-bot could forward the problem to a human-mod ? The mod could then carefully review things and decide if muting really needs to happen. Just a thought.
We do something like this.
--- Thanks for the info Erik.
Sep 19, 2020
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#874
llama wrote:
batgirl wrote:
erik wrote:
I understand the comment now. This is a hard issue. It's challenging enough already to deal with the amount of spam, abuse, cheating, and poor behavior from how many members we have, but to then go in and mark their comments as keep, remove, keep, remove, keep, etc - we just can't do all of that. If someone creates a great blog post or forum, but then goes on to verbally abuse 10 of their opponents - we just can't handle the nuance of deciding that some of their content should stay. In an ideal world with unlimited resources, sure, I think that makes sense. But it's just an impossibility at this point.
My suggestion is: if someone is closed, and you think their content deserves to remain active on the site, please reach out to our support team to let us know and we can evaluate. I'm sorry that we don't have an easier solution for this at this time.
That was pretty much my suggestion. Self-closing after a mute creates a situation where that former-member's content is hidden. Generally a member whose content is worthwhile is also savvy enough to know this will happen if he closes their account rather than just leave without closing the account. Additionally, members who get muted and close their accounts, but while here provided such quality content or even comments witty or helpful enough that their content should be preserved are so few and far between that a simple request to unmute their account seems a reasonable solution to a very minor and rare issue.
The concept of being valuable to the community is itself absurd. Ghost_of_pushwood's posts should be preserved? Why? The days of witty comments being appreciated by adult members is long gone.
How old are are the people here? 6, 7, 8?
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/off-topic/how-old-are-yall?
As old as 9?
It's literally a daycare. Low effort posts dominate.
How can you tell? Just search for low effort posts via this handy link:
https://www.chess.com/forum/hot-topics
Where you quickly find that the majority of chess.com's forum posts are 5 words or less i.e.
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/off-topic/king-of-the-ladder?page=6373#last_comment
---
So I have to disagree with @erik.
This is not a "challenging" topic. The forums are for children... and not just children, but young children. The idea of preserving clever posts, particularly posts that are deemed clever by an old man such as @alczervik is laughable. There is no community here, not for anyone whose age happens to be as high as double digits.
--- Some good points !
Sep 19, 2020
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#875
badenwurtca wrote:
llama wrote:
batgirl wrote:
erik wrote:
I understand the comment now. This is a hard issue. It's challenging enough already to deal with the amount of spam, abuse, cheating, and poor behavior from how many members we have, but to then go in and mark their comments as keep, remove, keep, remove, keep, etc - we just can't do all of that. If someone creates a great blog post or forum, but then goes on to verbally abuse 10 of their opponents - we just can't handle the nuance of deciding that some of their content should stay. In an ideal world with unlimited resources, sure, I think that makes sense. But it's just an impossibility at this point.
My suggestion is: if someone is closed, and you think their content deserves to remain active on the site, please reach out to our support team to let us know and we can evaluate. I'm sorry that we don't have an easier solution for this at this time.
That was pretty much my suggestion. Self-closing after a mute creates a situation where that former-member's content is hidden. Generally a member whose content is worthwhile is also savvy enough to know this will happen if he closes their account rather than just leave without closing the account. Additionally, members who get muted and close their accounts, but while here provided such quality content or even comments witty or helpful enough that their content should be preserved are so few and far between that a simple request to unmute their account seems a reasonable solution to a very minor and rare issue.
The concept of being valuable to the community is itself absurd. Ghost_of_pushwood's posts should be preserved? Why? The days of witty comments being appreciated by adult members is long gone.
How old are are the people here? 6, 7, 8?
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/off-topic/how-old-are-yall?
As old as 9?
It's literally a daycare. Low effort posts dominate.
How can you tell? Just search for low effort posts via this handy link:
https://www.chess.com/forum/hot-topics
Where you quickly find that the majority of chess.com's forum posts are 5 words or less i.e.
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/off-topic/king-of-the-ladder?page=6373#last_comment
---
So I have to disagree with @erik.
This is not a "challenging" topic. The forums are for children... and not just children, but young children. The idea of preserving clever posts, particularly posts that are deemed clever by an old man such as @alczervik is laughable. There is no community here, not for anyone whose age happens to be as high as double digits.
--- Some good points !
Maybe @erik could have his programmers develop an algorithm that ranks user's posts by the grade level of their writing.
This would be a good way to maximize profits. Mute anyone who frequently posts above the 5th grade level.
This has the added benefit of making (most) posts comprehensible to @erik himself.
Sep 19, 2020
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#876
AlCzervik wrote:
yep, this is to the owner. so that he might get an idea of how some things here piss us off.
there have been numerous topics in the past few months about autobots, new "features", and we receive many responses, but never an explanation from a staff member that explains anything. complaints are many, yet you rely on other regular members to explain the workings of the site. the laughable part is that, as you continue to adjust, those regular members aren't aware of new implementations. based on the limited staff responses, it appears they don't know what the hell is going on and sometimes are lackeys for whatever you do.
i have created a few topics about the failures i have seen. they are populated with many others that have concerns. when a response from staff is "it was done for improvements", or, "we are working on it", there is never any follow up.
why is that?
i have sent three tickets dating back 13 days. no response to any.
how is it that concerns are ignored? erik, i'm sure this post could piss you off, but, really, how is it that concerns are ignored?
there are members shut out of live chess because of some stupid bot.
there has been no explanation for the board size shrinking.
there is a red banner that tells us we cannot post three times consecutively. many topics on this, but nothing from staff.
where is the customer service?
Your concerns about what you just wrote seem outstandingly true to a certain degree, but however using bad words such as the (P***) (H***) words are not acceptable!
Unfortunately I must report you, so chess.com can take the right action's.
Sep 19, 2020
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#877
B_M_Miller wrote:
AlCzervik wrote:
yep, this is to the owner. so that he might get an idea of how some things here piss us off.
there have been numerous topics in the past few months about autobots, new "features", and we receive many responses, but never an explanation from a staff member that explains anything. complaints are many, yet you rely on other regular members to explain the workings of the site. the laughable part is that, as you continue to adjust, those regular members aren't aware of new implementations. based on the limited staff responses, it appears they don't know what the hell is going on and sometimes are lackeys for whatever you do.
i have created a few topics about the failures i have seen. they are populated with many others that have concerns. when a response from staff is "it was done for improvements", or, "we are working on it", there is never any follow up.
why is that?
i have sent three tickets dating back 13 days. no response to any.
how is it that concerns are ignored? erik, i'm sure this post could piss you off, but, really, how is it that concerns are ignored?
there are members shut out of live chess because of some stupid bot.
there has been no explanation for the board size shrinking.
there is a red banner that tells us we cannot post three times consecutively. many topics on this, but nothing from staff.
where is the customer service?
Your concerns about what you just wrote seem outstandingly true to a certain degree, but however using bad words such as the (P***) (H***) words are not acceptable!
Unfortunately I must report you, so chess.com can take the right action's.
@B_M_Miller, people have said and will say a lot worse on this site than those words. I've seen people called "grammar nazis", and a lot worse terms that I will not go into. I get it may piss you off 
, but unless a word is racially offensive, or it is meant as harassment, there's not really anything that violates the ToS. I see you identify as Christian, so I understand why "hell" is offensive to you. I know this strays a bit into religion, but unless you are taking God's name in vain, there is nothing morally wrong about cussing (PM me if you want to talk more about this) but take social standards into account. Context matters. However, people, should take into account there being kids on the site, and there being social standards, but there's nothing against swearing.
B_M_Miller wrote:
Your concerns about what you just wrote seem outstandingly true to a certain degree, but however using bad words such as the (P***) (H***) words are not acceptable!
Unfortunately I must report you, so chess.com can take the right action's.
first, i did not "just" write that. it is from a year ago.
personally, i do not care what words you deem unacceptable. you are not required to follow this topic.
second, allow me to help you with reporting. here is the link for you to mention to staff that i have used words that make you cry-https://support.chess.com/article/209-how-do-i-report-someone
Sep 20, 2020
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#879
after proofreading your post, he wouldn’t even tell us if your word count was a tad high 
gentlemen! ladies! some pertinent posts here.
along with what some have accurately described as posts from children. please stop with those.
this is a topic that has the ear of the site owner where we can bring site issues directly to him. please don't ruin it.