Is it Unsportsmanlike to let the Arena Clock Run Out

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daFoxy
Typewriter44 wrote:
daFoxy wrote:

What's the difference between Arena and regular games? It still wastes your oppnent's time.

In an arena, it is the best strategy. In regular games, it wastes your opponent's time.

Hmm...I guess that makes sense. I don't play much Arena tournaments, so I didn't think of that 

DerekDHarvey

Offer a draw instead and both players get an extra half point instead of none. 

THELEGITCHICKEN

I mean, it kinda is unsportsmanlike, but anyone who is starting a game in that range when something like that should happen should be prepared to either play very fast themselves, or the opponent will stall. If people don't want this to happen to them, just stop playing in the arena when you reach that time zone.

canadian_rt

This point is similar to the SCC match clock. Is it sportsmanship to run down that clock if you're winning?

JackRoach

This was funny:

I was playing a 1500 in a tournament. He played the worst moves and blundered everything.

Then the tournament clock ran out, and it was aborted. 

DerekDHarvey

In the olden days I used to wonder whether it was an infringement of the distraction rules to pretend to forget to hit your clock. I have seen this many times, usually with juniors being on the receiving end. They immediately start to fidget and sit there wondering whether to move or not.

daFoxy

I can't understand how that can be distracting. 

If my opponent forgets to hit his/her clock, I just remind them. 

Paulcm67
You’re being unsportsmanlike.
angie_wb

You're wasting both yours, and your opponent's time unless stalling is some sort of strategy. 

angie_wb
daFoxy wrote:

I can't understand how that can be distracting. 

If my opponent forgets to hit his/her clock, I just remind them. 

 

Yes, I do too. I think in regular games you're not supposed to talk or anything, but when my opponent forgets to press their clock, or I've made a move and they haven't noticed, I find it polite to tell them.

 

daFoxy
Paulcm67 wrote:
You’re being unsportsmanlike.

How?

daFoxy
Alicia2014a wrote:
daFoxy wrote:

I can't understand how that can be distracting. 

If my opponent forgets to hit his/her clock, I just remind them. 

 

Yes, I do too. I think in regular games you're not supposed to talk or anything, but when my opponent forgets to press their clock, or I've made a move and they haven't noticed, I find it polite to tell them.

 

Yes, that's my reasoning. Most people won't call the arbiter if you remind them to press their clock. 

IAmMagnoose
Mightywarrior24 wrote:

hikaru does that in arena kings

hikaru really shouldnt be the benchmark for sportsmanship lmao

Pickleballgambit

It has to be a sport to have behaviours considered as unsportsmanlike. Now, Gamesmanship , sure it is, but so what.

Also, what argument is "protecting rating" when entering a rated tournament? Play 10 or more games where rating is clearly "not protected", but this final game....  makes no sense.

IAmMagnoose
Pickleballgambit wrote:

It has to be a sport to have behaviours considered as unsportsmanlike. Now, Gamesmanship , sure it is, but so what.

Also, what argument is "protecting rating" when entering a rated tournament? Play 10 or more games where rating is clearly "not protected", but this final game....  makes no sense.

theres a thing called class. if u lost a game just resign. yesterday i had a mate in one with 6 minutes to go and the opponent decides to run the arena clock out bcs im a 1200 and he is a 1550 and he's about to lose a lot of points. theres a reason people hate the no.1 player on chess.com lol

Pickleballgambit
IAmMagnoose wrote:
Pickleballgambit wrote:

It has to be a sport to have behaviours considered as unsportsmanlike. Now, Gamesmanship , sure it is, but so what.

Also, what argument is "protecting rating" when entering a rated tournament? Play 10 or more games where rating is clearly "not protected", but this final game....  makes no sense.

theres a thing called class. if u lost a game just resign. yesterday i had a mate in one with 6 minutes to go and the opponent decides to run the arena clock out bcs im a 1200 and he is a 1550 and he's about to lose a lot of points. theres a reason people hate the no.1 player on chess.com lol

Or... the 1500 knew as the game started, that he could run the clock down, and reeled you in with some bad moves....before running out the clock.... to press your buttons. Its a game. 

Stevenj44

It's not unsportsmanlike and also childish! 

The only way to win an arena is to get the most wins.

If you stall you are screwing your opponent because it now takes longer per win.

And what do you hope to gain? A time-out loss is still a loss!

Why do you think stalling is an option for reporting people?

Stevenj44

And this is not just at the end of the arena that I see this

THELEGITCHICKEN
Stevenj44 wrote:

And this is not just at the end of the arena that I see this

Steven, I believe that you are talking about stalling in general, not at the end of the arena. Specifically when you stall at the end of the arena and the time is up on the arena, not for the game, then it counts as an aborted game and neither side will lose or gain rating points. 

Eyal282

If they don't want to waste 3 minutes of their life watching a frozen board, they should offer a draw.

 

However draw offers should be force accepted if your time allows you to stall, and it's your move.

If not, you should be able to force a draw when the opponent makes a non checkmating move.