Speaking of stats (and ChessNetwork), is the bug that causes a win to never award less than 1 rating point going to be fixed as a part of the new version?
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chesspro8 wrote:
i am especially talking about the player named chessnetwork who has achieved a rating of 4200!!!and it would be really unfair for players like him to start again from 1200
Most people are more likely to call it unfair that he OBTAINED that rating, seeing as how he purposely picked weak opponents so as to not lose any games.
TheGrobe: that day and a half is gone, anyway. Bet Ozzie had fun, though.
Nytik wrote:
TheGrobe wrote:
That's over a day-and-a-half of your life -- gone. Do you get a refund on that time somehow?
He's hardly losing that time, unless his sole purpose was to obtain his rating.
I say if there's no record of it it's as though it didn't happen. I threw out all of my old report cards and lost 12 years of my life -- unfortunately I don't look a day younger as a result though.
TheGrobe wrote:
Nytik wrote:
TheGrobe wrote:
That's over a day-and-a-half of your life -- gone. Do you get a refund on that time somehow?
He's hardly losing that time, unless his sole purpose was to obtain his rating.
I say if there's no record of it it's as though it didn't happen. I threw out all of my old report cards and lost 12 years of my life -- unfortunately I don't look a day younger as a result though.
Yes, but you still have the effects of those report cards - the person you are today! 
Zug wrote:
Deleting all the games won't save that much disk space. They're all probably saved in pgn format, or some sort of compressed pgn format. Let's say each game takes up 1KB, and that there are 1,000,000 games. That's only 1GB of space on the disk, which is nothing.
So, saving disk space would not be a motive to delete the games.
- Zug
Plus disk is cheap and plentiful these days.
Nytik wrote:
TheGrobe wrote:
Nytik wrote:
TheGrobe wrote:
That's over a day-and-a-half of your life -- gone. Do you get a refund on that time somehow?
He's hardly losing that time, unless his sole purpose was to obtain his rating.
I say if there's no record of it it's as though it didn't happen. I threw out all of my old report cards and lost 12 years of my life -- unfortunately I don't look a day younger as a result though.
Yes, but you still have the effects of those report cards - the person you are today!
You can't prove that -- I destroyed the evidence.
yes please, reset mine :)
jen
Lets have everyone start on a fresh slate. Ignore everyone else's opinions =p
Personally, I would like the ratings to be reset, as long we can keep the old graphs. I'd like to track my improvement that way, if possible. If it's not possible to keep the graphs, that's fine too, and I'll just save them on my computer.
G
Jul 29, 2009
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#52
I can live with any solution that management thinks will keep the player base as whole as possible. But ...
Is a possible alternative to erik's current thought to simply start everyone's RD off higher AND keep all the records and games?
I like having access WITHIN chess.com to my hundreds of previous games, but am not averse to having to prove that my current ratings are reasonable by suffering through a short period of high RD.
This would seem to be the best compromise in my view. It's the same as simply letting a month (or whatever the RD period / games number is) go by with no play by anyone.
DrawMaster wrote:
I can live with any solution that management thinks will keep the player base as whole as possible. But ...
Is a possible alternative to erik's current thought to simply start everyone's RD off higher AND keep all the records and games?
I like having access WITHIN chess.com to my hundreds of previous games, but am not averse to having to prove that my current ratings are reasonable by suffering through a short period of high RD.
This would seem to be the best compromise in my view. It's the same as simply letting a month (or whatever the RD period / games number is) go by with no play by anyone.
This is a great idea if a compromise is necessary -- it does seem overwhelmingly clear what the general concensus is though so I'm not sure that one is.
Well, opinions are divided of course. Nevertheless I think that of those who would like to keep their old rating, more people will get annoyed if they lose it, whereas those who argue in favor of a completely new start seemingly don t care that much about either possibility.
Keeping ratings and having a higher RD at the beginning is probably the best solution, however, if it isnt to complicated, the higher RD-period should not be a fixed amount of time and not necessarily the same for everybody - it could be relative to the number of games played so far, and maybe also relative to the percentage of games lost to an opponent with much lower rating (or vice versa).
Might you just "put a line" across the results to divide old from new ... or change the ink color or something? So that everyone would know results prior to the new upgrades are suspect ? Or perhaps just put all the Old Results into an ARCHIVE situation where they are then separate from the new stats, but viewable if someone wants to see? Just some thoughts, trying to help. Tho I know nothing of programming 
Personally, I'm happy if results stay or go. But was hoping there was some way to adjust the ratings. The entire LIVE CHESS Raings Pool is seriously deflated due to all the D/C's etc. So even those who do Not D/C are going to be low since they play people who have been lowered from D/C's, and so even they get rating lowered since the players they meet are actually stronger than rated, when they do not DC. So if I lose to a player that is 1300 who should actually be 1600, the bad effect is obvious.
Jul 29, 2009
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#56
after hearing everyone, this is 95% sure: wipe games and stats, keep ratings (rounded down to even 100), reset RD. we'll give everyone notice so they can download their games.
Jul 29, 2009
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#57
erik wrote:
after hearing everyone, this is 95% sure: wipe games and stats, keep ratings (rounded down to even 100), reset RD. we'll give everyone notice so they can download their games.
Erik, any way for us to archive our old games on this site prior to them being erased? That would be a great feature!
Jul 29, 2009
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#58
It's code of the West time, Erik: an administrator's gotta do what an administrator's gotta do.
When you can't please everybody, and will definitely piss off a goodly proportion of our noisier denizens no matter what you do, the choice is easy -- delete the games and kick off afresh.
There's probably no need to reset the ratings -- they'll reset themselves quickly enough after a few games anyway.
Pity we can't do anything about Ozzie C's day-and-a-half though...
What dilemma? Better services trump perfect records. I'm for the upgrade.
That's over a day-and-a-half of your life -- gone. Do you get a refund on that time somehow?
He's hardly losing that time, unless his sole purpose was to obtain his rating.