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justbefair wrote:
magipi wrote:
Martin_Stahl wrote:
Clark424 wrote:

Good grief!

Philip K. Dick (1928-1982) was a well-known author of speculative sci-fi.  In the chat section of a game with a former student of mine, I made a reference to him and got some automatic warning.  Is there some way to revoke this misguided auto-penalty?

 

If you get a warning, repeated uses over a short time will eventually mute you. The filter is not something that is context sensitive, so unfortunately can catch some innocent text in the process.

That filter should be just turned off then, obviously.

You think that the 1 legitimate use should outweigh the 99,999 abusive uses?

Seems like a political and philosophical question but yes given the context that's my opinion.  But then again I don't find myself offended by much and don't see much use for a filter in the first place  I'm bias in that direction already.  In this case removing the word "dick" as its a common name seems to me at least to be the easy solution as it would require changing a single value in some field so no need to turn it off but a small improvement would be to remove the word in this case i think.  

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Martin_Stahl wrote:
Clark424 wrote:

Good grief!

Philip K. Dick (1928-1982) was a well-known author of speculative sci-fi.  In the chat section of a game with a former student of mine, I made a reference to him and got some automatic warning.  Is there some way to revoke this misguided auto-penalty?

 

If you get a warning, repeated uses over a short time will eventually mute you. The filter is not something that is context sensitive, so unfortunately can catch some innocent text in the process.

 

Maybe Chess.com ought to get rid of these autobots for this precise reason.  Accusing the innocent, at all, even if just a warning, is PISS POOR CUSTOMER SERVICE!

 

That d-word that apparently chess.com thinks always means a slang form of a male body part is a VERY COMMON man's name:

D Clark, who died 10 years ago

D Francis, a well known author

 

It can also be:

 

Part of a book title about a whale

A sporting goods store.

 

 

This one's at the fault of chess.com and chess.com alone.  Don't care what any admin says.  If they claim it is not their fault, they are simply being a (word being discussed here) and not accepting responsibility for invoking an idiotic procedure and not even thinking about what it can do to the innocent users!

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↑ this.

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These people had better change their names. Or else.

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David wrote:
idilis wrote:

but i'm guessing the supporters of this despot wouldn't like someone poking fun at their leader comparing him to a round fluffy south indian rice cake.  but that's all probably lost on someone who might have this need to feel offended on behalf of another community.  hate from both sides, but that's ok.  implicit approval, yes - assuming the worst about others does make some feel better about themselves.

Yeah, we get a lot of supporters of authoritarian despots around here. Particularly ones that have been dead for almost 20 years. Claiming to be the victim definitely makes that person feel better about themselves, but it doesn't really fool other people for very long. One doesn't haven't to assume the worst about people when they've already shown it themselves.

incredibly surprising that, being here over ten years (and a former staff member, right?), you don't recognize the bunny, and know his sarcastic wit.

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Maybe he never liked the bunny. 

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CooloutAC wrote:
RonaldJosephCote wrote:

    I know your not gonna believe me but in 2010 I was driving my car when out of the blue, a giant Dick fell on my me.                                                                                    I was Ok but come to find out,...my insurance policy doesn't cover falling dicks.  

No games played for over 4 years.  Throwaway account.  Let me guess,  you got muted once for no reason and now resent the site and just come here to troll it?  lol While playing matches on your dozens of other accounts?

Cool out Sherlock. Ron's been with us since forever. He's the resident muppet.

is everyone a mod now?

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CooloutAC wrote:
*Snip*

He is here to prove Martin wrong.  Martin take note,  you breeded him and he's been trolling the forums for 4 years.   Do you find his pic offensive?  Is that the environment you want? I bet 4 years ago he would of never done such a thing.  Then he got muted for no reason one day.   lmao...  I have too much pride in my account to risk getting banned.  I've never made an alt in a gaming community in all my life.  Its dishonest.

Where did the alt discussion start? Ron had always been Ron.  Martin bred Ron?

Your profile says "Chess.com is an authoritarian regime".  Guessing that's a joke?

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CooloutAC wrote:
*Snip*

Have you been reading this thread?   Oh I just noticed your account is only a couple weeks old.  Surprised Martin?  This is what you are breeding.  You talk about the childrens site.   But you have made this the childrens site.  lol

And your account is 9-10 months old.  Also you talk about Martin breeding and children.

Don't know what's happening man but maybe you two better get a room

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Optimissed wrote:

A lot of these words that are so "offensive" and people are muted for them, aren't abusive. When you can be muted for mentioning a lady dog or an author's name, that is not correct. They aren't offensive words, either deliberately or mistakenly; and so much as I totally hate to say it, Mr C may be right. Afer all, it's just a matter of policy and in this case, it seems mistaken. Your side can rethink and then, amazingly, we will find that you have been right all along!

 

Just because a word had innocent uses doesn't mean it isn't often used in abusive ways. Being a chess site, your example word is very unlikely to be used in a less offensive way for most members anyway.

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MelvinGarvey wrote:

This flagrant abuse of a mixture of automated features along with a blatant laziness when it comes to solve user's problems can only lead to an amputation of vocabulary in languages, especially English language.

It's not an abuse or lazy unless you quantify how much abuse it stops vs how much legitimate usage it stops.

Hint: 99.99% of usage is bad, and automatically policing hundreds of thousands of people in real time is not lazy, it's the only practical way.

Mutes resolve themselves (they're short and temporary) and then the user knows not to repeat those words, so is able to avoid future mutes.

There are a few arguments against the way chess.com filters and mutes function, but I'm not seeing them in this topic.

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Also, I have shocking news for (apparently) most people here... this is how all laws and policies work in the real world i.e. in a small fraction of cases they're simply incorrect, but we put up with them because it's an efficient way to create order.

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MelvinGarvey wrote:

Things that have got 1 chance in 10.000 to happen, do actually happen

That's not my point, and I know how division works, I'm older than 10, thanks.

It makes sense as a policy. Your arguments against it are silly, I don't have much else to say.

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There are a few arguments against the way chess.com filters and mutes function, but I'm not seeing them in this topic.

There's no point in considering the matter and thinking of such arguments, because the morality vs pragmatism argument isn't taken seriously, so the perception that no-one is going to take any argument seriously isn't countered. After all, what you consider "better arguments" is in your opinion only. You might always try one and I'll see what I think of it. happy.png

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Optimissed wrote:

You might always try one and I'll see what I think of it.

For example, one problem with the auto filter and mute system is some users are allowed to post any word, and then when you quote them you can be flagged for a bad word in your post even though you didn't type the word yourself.

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MelvinGarvey wrote:

That's not your point? But you replied to my post, so, I can pick what ever flaw in your reply, and point it out.

And no, it makes no sense at all what you say, it's you who's silly, when you decide to ignore the mere fact, many words are used way under 0.01% of all what is written.

Yes, words have multiple meanings. Congratulations 

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MelvinGarvey wrote:

Things that have got 1 chance in 10.000 to happen, do actually happen just every single day of your life just around you.>>>

On the contrary, they probably won't happen if the rate of *things happening* is insufficient for them to "probably" happen while it's still possible for them to happen.

Just a minor, logical point and your heart's in the right place.

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MelvinGarvey wrote:

This proves an "unflag" button would be very usefull and avoid many auto mutes.

I'm sure that sounds nice to you, personally, but there's the small problem of you're not the only person on this website, and hiring __# of full time employees to review such button presses would be stupid.

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nMsALpg wrote:
Optimissed wrote:

You might always try one and I'll see what I think of it.

For example, one problem with the auto filter and mute system is some users are allowed to post any word, and then when you quote them you can be flagged for a bad word in your post even though you didn't type the word yourself.

Yes.

I lost half a page I'd written a few months ago for exactly that reason. Zap!