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Ammerbucher
Josechu wrote:

Done! Great idea.

Also funny that we all support peace, but play a game that is basically ritualised warfare.

Well, yes, this is an interesting point - would deserve it's own forum, tbh ... But I think there's no contradiction. You could say in chess, one overcomes (military) aggression, and puts it just on level of playing and peaceful competition ... it is the "synthesis of war and peace", if this is not a too big word ... 

I would not have objected if Mr Putin had challenged Mr Selenskyi for a game of chess ... wink.png

(Most sports, tbh, are strongly competitive, and many have elements of warcraft ... and you even do not have to think of Biathlon ... So the same goes for many other sports ...)

That was, honestly, also the idea behind the title of my tourney "Play chess, not war", which I am happy to promote here as well (that was not my reason in the beginning, but I think it is appropriate here ...)

https://www.chess.com/tournament/play-chess-not-war-a-tribute-to-peace-in-ukraine

 

 

 

 

njettoputin
It seems like Ginarook has deleted her account. I told her that it was sad to see young and smart people tiptoe around the mods and begging them not to lock. This is not how it should be in the free world.
Ammerbucher
boddythepoddy wrote:

Noooooooooooooooooooooo

Thanks for your honesty, noted ... But would you like to give a reason as well? 

Ammerbucher
njettoputin wrote:
It seems like Ginarook has deleted her account. I told her that it was sad to see young and smart people tiptoe around the mods and begging them not to lock. This is not how it should be in the free world.

Yes, a pity ... 

But she was closed for abuse ... 

https://www.chess.com/member/ginarook

 

njettoputin
This is the sad affairs of Chess.com; they probably have modt potential growth in countries like Russia and China, and they are getting aligned with censorship. That’s the «no politics» doctrine. It’s all about money.
lfPatriotGames
Ammerbucher wrote:
njettoputin wrote:
It seems like Ginarook has deleted her account. I told her that it was sad to see young and smart people tiptoe around the mods and begging them not to lock. This is not how it should be in the free world.

Yes, a pity ... 

But she was closed for abuse ... 

https://www.chess.com/member/ginarook

 

How interesting. I haven't seen all her content, but what I have seen certainly isn't abusive. Thoughtful and concerned, but definitely not abusive. 

Ammerbucher

Well, that's surely a possible reason. But I think the main reason is that they just do not want to have a (political) "war" here on the site. As far as I can see, they tolerate debates about the war in Ukraine (and how to deal with it) as long as it is chess-related (like about what FIDE does, or what the site could do). But they do not tolerate forums and discussions that go deeper into the conflict ... (Which, tbh, could be allowed here, IMHO, as an exception of the general rule, but I also understand that there are reasons not to allow it, and also reasons that have nothing to do with Russian money ...)

njettoputin

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Ammerbucher
lfPatriotGames wrote:
Ammerbucher wrote:
njettoputin wrote:
It seems like Ginarook has deleted her account. I told her that it was sad to see young and smart people tiptoe around the mods and begging them not to lock. This is not how it should be in the free world.

Yes, a pity ... 

But she was closed for abuse ... 

https://www.chess.com/member/ginarook

 

How interesting. I haven't seen all her content, but what I have seen certainly isn't abusive. Thoughtful and concerned, but definitely not abusive. 

The comments here - as far as I can tell - have not been, indeed.

But I suppose we have not seen all of what she had written. (I am pretty sure the account would not have been closed just for the comments here ...)

njettoputin
I had some messages back and forth with Ginarook. She was really bright.
Ammerbucher

Same here. But she may have crossed some borders. A pity ... 

JustinTime132

Hey everyone, as I said before, political discussions in the forums are against TOS. There are other places online to discuss this topic. Chess.com is a chess website which has discussions focusing on chess. Please, let's just keep politics out of here, but if it continues, we will lock it down.

Thanks, Justin

njettoputin
There are some Russian trolls among the mods. I guess she spotted one of them. She mentioned StumpyBlitzer to me. He’s been locking ever thread with the word Ukraine.
njettoputin
What is the matter with the mods? They are behaving like KGB.
njettoputin
I have been on another chess site since 2017, and I am sorry to see that the community here has changed for the worse. Pity, I used to have good discussions some years back.
lfPatriotGames
njettoputin wrote:
What is the matter with the mods? They are behaving like KGB.

There is definitely something not normal. Rational discussion in the past has always been allowed. I can understand omitting offensive posts by individuals, but wholesale locking down of topics does look a lot like what we are seeing on the news. 

So either they are getting marching orders that conflict with what the people want, or, they are simply oblivious to the optics of it. 

njettoputin
I am starting to wonder if Russian net trolls are among the mods. Chess.com is getting aligned with dictators and censorship. No serious stance on Putins invasion here.
njettoputin
One more locked discussion and I’m deleting my account!
Ammerbucher
njettoputin wrote:
(...) XX's been locking ever thread with the word Ukraine.

Well, this forum was not locked yet ... But there has been a warning now, #84.

I think it depends on if the discussion still is mostly chess-related or not ... (I even avoided naming any countries or leaders in my OP, for reasons ...)

Again, I kindly ask everybody NOT to discuss the Russian aggression on Ukraine here, but only to support the OP ... 

(As said, I also would like chess.com to be more tolerant in this case, but I am ready to accept if they are not ...)

njettoputin
I guess Chess.com changed when Trump came to power. Suddenly it was all dangerous to use the brain and have a good discussion. Democracy is messy, chaotic and sometimes crazy, but we can’t have it any other way.