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j4ck4l5
PlayerIDC wrote:
j4ck4l5 wrote:
PlayerIDC wrote:
j4ck4l5 wrote:

The community only has itself to blame. This is what happens when you refuse rematches. And if you need to justify it: Your win means nothing if you can't repeat it.

You remind me of that guy, who thinks people who don't rematch are scared, which is not true. Fym your win means nothing if you can't repeat it? Yeah, sure, but that doesn't only apply in rematching. Also what if we don't want to rematch? Does that affect anything? I can just find another one to play chess with and repeat my win.

You can justify it at your low rating because you don't have the perspective of someone who has played against people rated upwards of 2k. And yes, it does mean nothing if you can't repeat it. You can get the win once, sure, maybe even against me, but twice? At your rating? Doubtful. What separates luck from skill is repeatability.

That's why you see all these guys hit 1700 and 1800, and then slide back down to 1600 over the course of a week. If your tactics only work because they're gimmicks, then they're not real tactics. But it isn't like the majority of you don't already know that, so all the more reason to continue, right?

This is why I have zero sympathy for you. You'd rather defend your poor behavior than own the consequences of it.

Oh so I can't say anything because I'm low-rated? What does rating have to do with rematching? Plus you can repeat your win by not only rematching the same person, but rematching with other opponents. Youbhave zerp sympathy for me? "Oh no, I'm so scared that you have zero sympathy for me" I also have zero sympathy for you with your pathetic argument. I also don't have tactics and gimmicks, I just play and eventually get a winning or losing position.

You can hang out with Stern, since he's just a chesstopcrown alt, ajd he's the one who said that people who don't rematch are scared.

One last thing, I ain't gonna win against you, even once, since I'm not good in blitz

Why do you, a person who is far below average rating, who only plays a few times a month, think you have enough data for your opinion to matter?

j4ck4l5
Chess147 wrote:
j4ck4l5 wrote:

The community only has itself to blame. This is what happens when you refuse rematches. And if you need to justify it: Your win means nothing if you can't repeat it.

Rematches have nothing to do with the issue of players deliberately abandoning instead of playing on or resigning. I rarely rematch and most of the time when I do the opponent has already started a new game with someone else so when I'm playing a session of rapid or blitz it's easier just to hit the 'new game' button. Your profile suggests you're obsessed with rematches but that has nothing to do with this discussion unless you think an opponent can see in to the future and abandons a game because their crystal ball tells them the opponent will decline a rematch.

1000 times in a row, the rematch is refused. What incentive do you have to believe 1001 will be different?

PlayerIDC
j4ck4l5 wrote:
PlayerIDC wrote:
j4ck4l5 wrote:
PlayerIDC wrote:
j4ck4l5 wrote:

The community only has itself to blame. This is what happens when you refuse rematches. And if you need to justify it: Your win means nothing if you can't repeat it.

You remind me of that guy, who thinks people who don't rematch are scared, which is not true. Fym your win means nothing if you can't repeat it? Yeah, sure, but that doesn't only apply in rematching. Also what if we don't want to rematch? Does that affect anything? I can just find another one to play chess with and repeat my win.

You can justify it at your low rating because you don't have the perspective of someone who has played against people rated upwards of 2k. And yes, it does mean nothing if you can't repeat it. You can get the win once, sure, maybe even against me, but twice? At your rating? Doubtful. What separates luck from skill is repeatability.

That's why you see all these guys hit 1700 and 1800, and then slide back down to 1600 over the course of a week. If your tactics only work because they're gimmicks, then they're not real tactics. But it isn't like the majority of you don't already know that, so all the more reason to continue, right?

This is why I have zero sympathy for you. You'd rather defend your poor behavior than own the consequences of it.

Oh so I can't say anything because I'm low-rated? What does rating have to do with rematching? Plus you can repeat your win by not only rematching the same person, but rematching with other opponents. Youbhave zerp sympathy for me? "Oh no, I'm so scared that you have zero sympathy for me" I also have zero sympathy for you with your pathetic argument. I also don't have tactics and gimmicks, I just play and eventually get a winning or losing position.

You can hang out with Stern, since he's just a chesstopcrown alt, ajd he's the one who said that people who don't rematch are scared.

One last thing, I ain't gonna win against you, even once, since I'm not good in blitz

Why do you, a person who is far below average rating, who only plays a few times a month, think you have enough data for your opinion to matter?

Why you, a person who doesn't like others opinions, think you opinions are the only thing that matter? Also does low elo have any power to say what I can and cannot say to you? Just admit you hate low elo players and your opinion only matters and other opinions are trash, don't try and make excuses for your argument. Another pathetic pointless comment that doesn't attack my main point.

yaktam
KerryGM8 wrote:
yaktam wrote:

Just as in life, you have NO idea what's going on at the other end. A phone call, a child crying, an angry parent or spouse. So relax, play a puzzle in another window (if you're on a computer), or read a news feed if you're on you're phone. There are a lot of worse things that could happen to you, than have to wait a couple of minutes.

KerryGM8 wrote:You do not really understand the game of chess do you?
This is not boxing, or ice hockey or football, chess is much more serious, and if you think children (WTF???), angry parents or spouses (again WTF?????????) are any possible excuse for this atrocious and cowardly imbecilic behaviour of losers then, frankly, pal, you do not get chess. if you are losing you must resign - if anything else (like kids choking) you must resign.

Yaktam wrote:

I understand you’re passionate about chess and the etiquette around resigning when the game is clearly lost. But life doesn’t always wait politely in the background while we’re moving the pieces. The whole reason I mentioned a child crying, an unexpected phone call, or an urgent situation is to point out that sometimes people have very real interruptions that require their immediate attention.

It’s not “cowardice” or “imbecilic behavior” if someone takes a few extra minutes or times out because they had something critical to deal with. Sure, if a player knows they are beaten and everything else in life is stable, a polite resignation is the best course. But, it’s also healthy to acknowledge that chess, while serious and important to us, still exists in the real world where things can (and do) happen.

That’s all I was suggesting: to relax and remember there could be many reasons for a delay—reasons more pressing than a single chess game. I’m not devaluing chess; I’m simply saying that sometimes, you never know what’s happening on the other side of the board. And a bit of patience in those rare moments can go a long way.

j4ck4l5
PlayerIDC wrote:
j4ck4l5 wrote:
PlayerIDC wrote:
j4ck4l5 wrote:
PlayerIDC wrote:
j4ck4l5 wrote:

The community only has itself to blame. This is what happens when you refuse rematches. And if you need to justify it: Your win means nothing if you can't repeat it.

You remind me of that guy, who thinks people who don't rematch are scared, which is not true. Fym your win means nothing if you can't repeat it? Yeah, sure, but that doesn't only apply in rematching. Also what if we don't want to rematch? Does that affect anything? I can just find another one to play chess with and repeat my win.

You can justify it at your low rating because you don't have the perspective of someone who has played against people rated upwards of 2k. And yes, it does mean nothing if you can't repeat it. You can get the win once, sure, maybe even against me, but twice? At your rating? Doubtful. What separates luck from skill is repeatability.

That's why you see all these guys hit 1700 and 1800, and then slide back down to 1600 over the course of a week. If your tactics only work because they're gimmicks, then they're not real tactics. But it isn't like the majority of you don't already know that, so all the more reason to continue, right?

This is why I have zero sympathy for you. You'd rather defend your poor behavior than own the consequences of it.

Oh so I can't say anything because I'm low-rated? What does rating have to do with rematching? Plus you can repeat your win by not only rematching the same person, but rematching with other opponents. Youbhave zerp sympathy for me? "Oh no, I'm so scared that you have zero sympathy for me" I also have zero sympathy for you with your pathetic argument. I also don't have tactics and gimmicks, I just play and eventually get a winning or losing position.

You can hang out with Stern, since he's just a chesstopcrown alt, ajd he's the one who said that people who don't rematch are scared.

One last thing, I ain't gonna win against you, even once, since I'm not good in blitz

Why do you, a person who is far below average rating, who only plays a few times a month, think you have enough data for your opinion to matter?

Why you, a person who doesn't like others opinions, think you opinions are the only thing that matter? Also does low elo have any power to say what I can and cannot say to you? Just admit you hate low elo players and your opinion only matters and other opinions are trash, don't try and make excuses for your argument. Another pathetic pointless comment that doesn't attack my main point.

I like informed opinions. Yours isn't.

PlayerIDC
j4ck4l5 wrote:
PlayerIDC wrote:
j4ck4l5 wrote:
PlayerIDC wrote:
j4ck4l5 wrote:
PlayerIDC wrote:
j4ck4l5 wrote:

The community only has itself to blame. This is what happens when you refuse rematches. And if you need to justify it: Your win means nothing if you can't repeat it.

You remind me of that guy, who thinks people who don't rematch are scared, which is not true. Fym your win means nothing if you can't repeat it? Yeah, sure, but that doesn't only apply in rematching. Also what if we don't want to rematch? Does that affect anything? I can just find another one to play chess with and repeat my win.

You can justify it at your low rating because you don't have the perspective of someone who has played against people rated upwards of 2k. And yes, it does mean nothing if you can't repeat it. You can get the win once, sure, maybe even against me, but twice? At your rating? Doubtful. What separates luck from skill is repeatability.

That's why you see all these guys hit 1700 and 1800, and then slide back down to 1600 over the course of a week. If your tactics only work because they're gimmicks, then they're not real tactics. But it isn't like the majority of you don't already know that, so all the more reason to continue, right?

This is why I have zero sympathy for you. You'd rather defend your poor behavior than own the consequences of it.

Oh so I can't say anything because I'm low-rated? What does rating have to do with rematching? Plus you can repeat your win by not only rematching the same person, but rematching with other opponents. Youbhave zerp sympathy for me? "Oh no, I'm so scared that you have zero sympathy for me" I also have zero sympathy for you with your pathetic argument. I also don't have tactics and gimmicks, I just play and eventually get a winning or losing position.

You can hang out with Stern, since he's just a chesstopcrown alt, ajd he's the one who said that people who don't rematch are scared.

One last thing, I ain't gonna win against you, even once, since I'm not good in blitz

Why do you, a person who is far below average rating, who only plays a few times a month, think you have enough data for your opinion to matter?

Why you, a person who doesn't like others opinions, think you opinions are the only thing that matter? Also does low elo have any power to say what I can and cannot say to you? Just admit you hate low elo players and your opinion only matters and other opinions are trash, don't try and make excuses for your argument. Another pathetic pointless comment that doesn't attack my main point.

I like informed opinions. Yours isn't.

Yours ain't even imformed, yours is very misinformed and looks like you got from an attention-seeker. Again, just admit you don't like my opinion and hate low elo chess player, stop making excuses and tell me why you think rematching is important, otherwise, your argument is pointless.

j4ck4l5
PlayerIDC wrote:
j4ck4l5 wrote:
PlayerIDC wrote:
j4ck4l5 wrote:
PlayerIDC wrote:
j4ck4l5 wrote:
PlayerIDC wrote:
j4ck4l5 wrote:

The community only has itself to blame. This is what happens when you refuse rematches. And if you need to justify it: Your win means nothing if you can't repeat it.

You remind me of that guy, who thinks people who don't rematch are scared, which is not true. Fym your win means nothing if you can't repeat it? Yeah, sure, but that doesn't only apply in rematching. Also what if we don't want to rematch? Does that affect anything? I can just find another one to play chess with and repeat my win.

You can justify it at your low rating because you don't have the perspective of someone who has played against people rated upwards of 2k. And yes, it does mean nothing if you can't repeat it. You can get the win once, sure, maybe even against me, but twice? At your rating? Doubtful. What separates luck from skill is repeatability.

That's why you see all these guys hit 1700 and 1800, and then slide back down to 1600 over the course of a week. If your tactics only work because they're gimmicks, then they're not real tactics. But it isn't like the majority of you don't already know that, so all the more reason to continue, right?

This is why I have zero sympathy for you. You'd rather defend your poor behavior than own the consequences of it.

Oh so I can't say anything because I'm low-rated? What does rating have to do with rematching? Plus you can repeat your win by not only rematching the same person, but rematching with other opponents. Youbhave zerp sympathy for me? "Oh no, I'm so scared that you have zero sympathy for me" I also have zero sympathy for you with your pathetic argument. I also don't have tactics and gimmicks, I just play and eventually get a winning or losing position.

You can hang out with Stern, since he's just a chesstopcrown alt, ajd he's the one who said that people who don't rematch are scared.

One last thing, I ain't gonna win against you, even once, since I'm not good in blitz

Why do you, a person who is far below average rating, who only plays a few times a month, think you have enough data for your opinion to matter?

Why you, a person who doesn't like others opinions, think you opinions are the only thing that matter? Also does low elo have any power to say what I can and cannot say to you? Just admit you hate low elo players and your opinion only matters and other opinions are trash, don't try and make excuses for your argument. Another pathetic pointless comment that doesn't attack my main point.

I like informed opinions. Yours isn't.

Yours ain't even imformed, yours is very misinformed and looks like you got from an attention-seeker. Again, just admit you don't like my opinion and hate low elo chess player, stop making excuses and tell me why you think rematching is important, otherwise, your argument is pointless.

So let me clarify a few things. People at your ELO playing against each other is the same as if Hikaru was playing against you in that the person playing against you could do almost what ever they want and it wouldn't make a difference because your experience is so lacking that everything works.

And you can't even deny it, because as you said, you have no tactics, you have no tricks, all you do is play until you have a winning or losing position. So what I am saying about rematches does not apply to you, because by your own admission, you do not understand the game. You are a living Dunning-Kruger. You don't even know what you don't know.

I also don't believe people who refuse rematches are afraid, that implies uncertainty. They know for a fact they will lose. personally, I have a little more decency. And while I know these words will be completely wasted on you, I don't like winning because you beat yourself. If I didn't beat you with intent, it is a meaningless victory.

Lastly, I don't hate low ELO players. Our worlds rarely touch, so I don't even think about you. What I don't like is people who talk with false confidence, and have barely enough experience to fill a thimble.

Are we done with the smoke screen now? Are you ready to be honest?

DCthedestroyer

The only actual reason why spmeone would stall without bad inntentions is only when they have been distracted by something of higher importance and have forgotten to resign the game before leaving. Even if they close the tab, the game willl be win by abandonment. In no situation is abandonment acceptable or legible by any means.

PlayerIDC
j4ck4l5 wrote:
PlayerIDC wrote:
j4ck4l5 wrote:
PlayerIDC wrote:
j4ck4l5 wrote:
PlayerIDC wrote:
j4ck4l5 wrote:
PlayerIDC wrote:
j4ck4l5 wrote:

The community only has itself to blame. This is what happens when you refuse rematches. And if you need to justify it: Your win means nothing if you can't repeat it.

You remind me of that guy, who thinks people who don't rematch are scared, which is not true. Fym your win means nothing if you can't repeat it? Yeah, sure, but that doesn't only apply in rematching. Also what if we don't want to rematch? Does that affect anything? I can just find another one to play chess with and repeat my win.

You can justify it at your low rating because you don't have the perspective of someone who has played against people rated upwards of 2k. And yes, it does mean nothing if you can't repeat it. You can get the win once, sure, maybe even against me, but twice? At your rating? Doubtful. What separates luck from skill is repeatability.

That's why you see all these guys hit 1700 and 1800, and then slide back down to 1600 over the course of a week. If your tactics only work because they're gimmicks, then they're not real tactics. But it isn't like the majority of you don't already know that, so all the more reason to continue, right?

This is why I have zero sympathy for you. You'd rather defend your poor behavior than own the consequences of it.

Oh so I can't say anything because I'm low-rated? What does rating have to do with rematching? Plus you can repeat your win by not only rematching the same person, but rematching with other opponents. Youbhave zerp sympathy for me? "Oh no, I'm so scared that you have zero sympathy for me" I also have zero sympathy for you with your pathetic argument. I also don't have tactics and gimmicks, I just play and eventually get a winning or losing position.

You can hang out with Stern, since he's just a chesstopcrown alt, ajd he's the one who said that people who don't rematch are scared.

One last thing, I ain't gonna win against you, even once, since I'm not good in blitz

Why do you, a person who is far below average rating, who only plays a few times a month, think you have enough data for your opinion to matter?

Why you, a person who doesn't like others opinions, think you opinions are the only thing that matter? Also does low elo have any power to say what I can and cannot say to you? Just admit you hate low elo players and your opinion only matters and other opinions are trash, don't try and make excuses for your argument. Another pathetic pointless comment that doesn't attack my main point.

I like informed opinions. Yours isn't.Yours ain't even imformed, yours is very misinformed and looks like you got from an attention-seeker. Again, just admit you don't like my opinion and hate low elo chess player, stop making excuses and tell me why you think rematching is important, otherwise, your argument is pointless.

So let me clarify a few things. People at your ELO playing against each other is the same as if Hikaru was playing against you in that the person playing against you could do almost what ever they want and it wouldn't make a difference because your experience is so lacking that everything works.

And you can't even deny it, because as you said, you have no tactics, you have no tricks, all you do is play until you have a winning or losing position. So what I am saying about rematches does not apply to you, because by your own admission, you do not understand the game. You are a living Dunning-Kruger. You don't even know what you don't know.

I also don't believe people who refuse rematches are afraid, that implies uncertainty. They know for a fact they will lose. personally, I have a little more decency. And while I know these words will be completely wasted on you, I don't like winning because you beat yourself. If I didn't beat you with intent, it is a meaningless victory.

Lastly, I don't hate low ELO players. Our worlds rarely touch, so I don't even think about you. What I don't like is people who talk with false confidence, and have barely enough experience to fill a thimble.

Are we done with the smoke screen now? Are you ready to be honest?

First of all, I understand the game very well, but I don't plan any openings, I do plan a little in the middlegame, then try my best to not blunder in the endgame, and that what I mean by no tactics, and the tricks, well only the counter to the fried liver, other than that, no tricks.

Second about the rematching, you don't need to rematch someone just to prove you won against them, not a lot people do that (except chess masters). My point is, rematchibg is not required, even if you want to prove that ypu can beat them, you can even do that by finding a new opponent to play against.

And you're right, I probably just talk absolute nonsense and don't even know what are the things you said there. I'm probably too dumb to even answer some of them. I'd rather argue with trolls instead of people like you, since trolls are easier to rebuttal instead of you.

Good thing we are done, now are you happy? Are we good now?

Pietet1969
I find it unsportmanlike and pathetic and usually block these people
RE3_14
Pietet1969 wrote:
I find it unsportmanlike and pathetic and usually block these people

I agree... Especially taking into account that I mostly play daily games... So yeah, that's loooooong...

I don't block people on this basis, but I stopped playing 7 days/ move games, and try to avoid 3 days per move. 24 hours is fine for me, it gives me the time to think (and hopefully, progress), and doesn't impact the daily routine of work/ family/ etc

Life-in-Spain

Uhm, Just stop!!!!!!!! I'm mad at you guys😡😡😡

Life-in-Spain

Just go to Heaven👍🏾☺️

logic-1984

shut up

Aadya_0901
Yeah that is soo bad they can resign if they want but abandoning the game is not good
Ehud-the-Valiant

Sometimes, my opponent abandons the game. I wish they would fight to the end instead.

Boar1976
Sometimes people just forget or make a mistake, or have something come up - it has occasionally happened to me, or I’ve had internet drop out in a losing position. What I dislike is when people wait for ages then play a meaningless move in a losing position with a second left hoping to win on time. I love calling their bluff.

I’m a bit ambivalent about rematches myself. I enjoy looking at the analysis straight after a game - you can’t do a rematch then.
PGT5665
Ehud-the-Valiant wrote:

Sometimes, my opponent abandons the game. I wish they would fight to the end instead.

The problem isn't that they don't fight to the end, it's when they are in an unwinnable position and they abandon instead of resigning, making their opponent wait for ages.

PGT5665

BTW, anyone wanna join tournament? Registration starts an hour before tournament.

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AGC-Gambit_YT

too late-