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I've just played someone who offered me a draw every time he made a move during the end game. Always after his move and so on my time. He was behind on material and time but won in the end because every time It was my turn to move I had to decline a draw before I could move.


Cheeky at least, no?
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He has to move before he offers a draw. (In a tournament game, people usually insist on that.)

You don't have to decline a draw offer. You can just move.

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People actually do this OTB as well? What a bunch of chumps lol.

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There's a USCF rule regarding excessive draw offers. You can have the TD intercede.

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kind of strange there is no setting for "maximum number of draw offers tolerated".

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@EscherehcsE Yep, I was made aware of that by my coach after the game. 

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AGoodDayToFryLard wrote:

kind of strange there is no setting for "maximum number of draw offers tolerated".

Not really when you can simply ignore the draw offer and make your move.

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I had a real douc*e bag of an opponent back in 2009.  I at the time was about 2025 and my opponent was about 1550.  I was White in a Benko Gambit Accepted, Fianchetto Variation.  My opponent was probably late 50s or possibly in his 60s, and close friends with the director who still at this time nobody in the entire state of North Carolina can stand other than his own little goonies that play nowhere else but his events.

Well, after 15 moves by each player, all book, he offers me a draw.  I make my 16th move, and he makes his 16th move and offers me a draw.  I make my 17th move, and he makes his 17th move and offers me a draw yet again!  He does it move 18, and 19.  On my 20th move, I slam the piece down as hard as I possibly can and stare him down in such a way that I clearly wanted to shout an obsenity or racial word to his face.  He does it yet again on move 20, and I get the director involved.  Because the director was friends with him, he did nothing but "ask" (not even demand) a ceasing of the draw offers.

I proceed to checkmate him in 53 moves, and then he goes around saying that a clown like me shouldn't need 53 moves to mate someone 500 points down!

I might also add that this opponent of mine ran tournaments in 1998, and his events, like most others in the state, required NCCA membership (NCCA = North Carolina Chess Association).  It was eventually determined that this thug was pocketing NCCA dues, so not only is his play unethical, he's a scandal as well!

So yes, this cr*p does indeed occur OTB at well!

By the way, anybody from North Carolina that happens to be reading this wondering who I may be talking, since I can't mention names, take the part of the golf course where you do the putting, and concatenate that with a famous conferderate general with the first name Robert.

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Wesley so got pulled for writing on a piece of paper, and touching a move is considered so distracting you have to move it. There was no point to your answer Darth Algar, wake up.

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ThrillerFan wrote:

I had a real douc*e bag of an opponent back in 2009.  I at the time was about 2025 and my opponent was about 1550.  I was White in a Benko Gambit Accepted, Fianchetto Variation.  My opponent was probably late 50s or possibly in his 60s, and close friends with the director who still at this time nobody in the entire state of North Carolina can stand other than his own little goonies that play nowhere else but his events.

Well, after 15 moves by each player, all book, he offers me a draw.  I make my 16th move, and he makes his 16th move and offers me a draw.  I make my 17th move, and he makes his 17th move and offers me a draw yet again!  He does it move 18, and 19.  On my 20th move, I slam the piece down as hard as I possibly can and stare him down in such a way that I clearly wanted to shout an obsenity or racial word to his face.  He does it yet again on move 20, and I get the director involved.  Because the director was friends with him, he did nothing but "ask" (not even demand) a ceasing of the draw offers.

I proceed to checkmate him in 53 moves, and then he goes around saying that a clown like me shouldn't need 53 moves to mate someone 500 points down!

I might also add that this opponent of mine ran tournaments in 1998, and his events, like most others in the state, required NCCA membership (NCCA = North Carolina Chess Association).  It was eventually determined that this thug was pocketing NCCA dues, so not only is his play unethical, he's a scandal as well!

So yes, this cr*p does indeed occur OTB at well!

By the way, anybody from North Carolina that happens to be reading this wondering who I may be talking, since I can't mention names, take the part of the golf course where you do the putting, and concatenate that with a famous conferderate general with the first name Robert.

Okay ...2025 will be in 9 years.

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@redash08 lol, he means his rating was 2025 USCF. 

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nah bro, only for under-800 rateds, the touch move twirly thing.

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Oh yeah, I have some stories about the touch-rule as well! One player at a tournament in Virginia was playing me in G45. I had just played Nxe4, initiating a capture sequence, and he was in the bathroom. When he returned, he was supposed to play Nxe4 and after I took with the pawn, he would recapture Rxe4 and material would be even. However, when he returned from the bathroom, he absent-mindedly forgot that the first series of exchanges hadn't happened yet, and so he picked up the rook. He asked if he could move something else and I told him that he couldn't, since that's a rule. He then proceeded to lecture to me in a series of whispers about how I was being immature (of course he was in his forties, and as you all know, I'm seventeen) for not letting him move the knight instead, and about what a technicality the touch-rule is. Of course, this player is neither good at chess nor a sportsman, and if he did what he did in any other game, most players would call him on it. It turns out he is actually quite a well-known and accomplished person in his profession, which I will not reveal for the purpose of keeping his name anonymous.

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dpnorman wrote:

@redash08 lol, he means his rating was 2025 USCF. 

Clearly he's an idiot.  I even said the game was in 2009 in the previous sentence!

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AGoodDayToFryLard wrote:

Wesley so got pulled for writing on a piece of paper, and touching a move is considered so distracting you have to move it. There was no point to your answer Darth Algar, wake up.

Neither writing on paper nor touch move are relevant to the topic.

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AGoodDayToFryLard wrote:

kind of strange there is no setting for "maximum number of draw offers tolerated".

Actually , excessive draw offers is covered under the rule ( in otb play anyway ) that you are NOT allowed to distract your opponent . 

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ThrillerFan wrote:

I had a real douc*e bag of an opponent back in 2009.  I at the time was about 2025 and my opponent was about 1550.  I was White in a Benko Gambit Accepted, Fianchetto Variation.  My opponent was probably late 50s or possibly in his 60s, and close friends with the director who still at this time nobody in the entire state of North Carolina can stand other than his own little goonies that play nowhere else but his events.

Well, after 15 moves by each player, all book, he offers me a draw.  I make my 16th move, and he makes his 16th move and offers me a draw.  I make my 17th move, and he makes his 17th move and offers me a draw yet again!  He does it move 18, and 19.  On my 20th move, I slam the piece down as hard as I possibly can and stare him down in such a way that I clearly wanted to shout an obsenity or racial word to his face.  He does it yet again on move 20, and I get the director involved.  Because the director was friends with him, he did nothing but "ask" (not even demand) a ceasing of the draw offers.

I proceed to checkmate him in 53 moves, and then he goes around saying that a clown like me shouldn't need 53 moves to mate someone 500 points down!

I might also add that this opponent of mine ran tournaments in 1998, and his events, like most others in the state, required NCCA membership (NCCA = North Carolina Chess Association).  It was eventually determined that this thug was pocketing NCCA dues, so not only is his play unethical, he's a scandal as well!

So yes, this cr*p does indeed occur OTB at well!

By the way, anybody from North Carolina that happens to be reading this wondering who I may be talking, since I can't mention names, take the part of the golf course where you do the putting, and concatenate that with a famous conferderate general with the first name Robert.

I wonder what is more disturbing. An idiot who does not care about chess etiquette, or someone who is inclined to use "racial words" at the earliest opportunity?

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<Jenium> + much