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surprisingly accurate, i'm sure that i've experienced this rating pattern at least two or three times before. hopefully you can get your rating back up! 

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MisterWindUpBird wrote:

Strange when players over 2000 call themselves 'bad.' 

Considering I played a 1950 in blitz and for the first 3 games my accuracy was under 65 every time-

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ninjaswat wrote:

Considering I played a 1950 in blitz and for the first 3 games my accuracy was under 65 every time-

But then, you know better than most that sometimes you can only play as well as the opponent lets you, and playing for a win past a certain point is going to require something other than 'best moves,' that maybe draw.  Some openings are like rock, paper, scissors. If you don't know the winning line, or work it out mid-game you're stuffed. Anyway, I've played chess all my life and just dropped under 1300 again. Such is life. Lol.

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2021blitzgrind wrote:

Well I feel I lose most games by making some really stupid mistake instead of multiple small inaccuracies; my last few blitz games in particular were lost while I was quite decisively winning o_O. Am I just a bad player or am I unfocused most of the time? (My tactics is like 2600, which apparently is decent according to lgp, but I definitely am not that level in real games)

same thing here. My tactics are 2550 - 2620 these days, but all my blitz losses are just handed wins. I find that its mostly the time constraints when it comes to blitz, so a great way to see how good you really are is to set up a board and play rapid. Thats what works best for me, but sometimes I just like to unwind after a long day with an hour or so of blitz. (rarely works tho and I get angrier xD)

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Perfect way to describe this

 

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chaotikitat wrote:
Perfect way to describe this

 

:)

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I’ve tilted around a hundred points in rapid once or twice and I understand what you mean, the rating losses are actually normal, and for some reason I didn’t really get discouraged by them, instead looking at them as opportunities to spring back and reach a new peak, which I did. However right now my rating losses are 100% tilt and because of my lack of focus. Good luck getting your rating back!

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i noticed that same pattern 

leagues ruined everything by the way : (

lets see how i do as well since i just recovered from my tilt (now back to normal )

 

also gl ..

2100 incoming for u ;D..hehe..

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MisterWindUpBird wrote:

Strange when players over 2000 call themselves 'bad.' 

We are all human and even top GMs sometimes think they play terribly - no really, they can "feel" like they are just the worst at chess sometimes - even if they are still very high in ability. I can think of moments from just about every top super-GM where the person was shaking their head, talking about quitting chess, or at a loss for words other than their disappointment. 

The only difference is that generally speaking, the higher rated players survived more of those emotional hurdles - how else could they reach such a rating? xD

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KeSetoKaiba wrote:

This forum is mostly for my current chess.com friends, but I didn't think it was worthy of a blog post, so here is the forum thread...

I'm losing quite a good amount more rating on chess.com...but wait for it...

this might be a good thing in disguise, so let me explain.

I've noticed (and mentioned several times elsewhere) that how you feel ability-wise when you lose is important because sometimes we'll just play worse or tilt, but there is a specific type of loss which foreshadows improvement. If you feel okay in ability, but your recent games seem like you are playing well and (more or less) crushing your opponents BUT LOSING (usually by missing a tactic, or something small which collapses your position), then I've noticed this type of rating drop happens often just a month or two before a huge rating surge where you gain back the lost rating plus much more!

I've lost 50 points of chess.com rapid earlier this week and just lost about 30 more today (despite my chess feeling all right and my OTB doing better than ever). Oh sure, the rating drops aren't ever too fun to endure, but metaphorically mark your calendars everyone, because in roughly 2 months from now my chess.com rapid rating might be much higher again!

I'm creating this forum thread to "call it" in advance as well as to inform others of this rating pattern if they hadn't noticed it before. The observed pattern is that if your rating has stabilized around a certain rating for a while (not necessarily plateau, but could be) followed by a lot of losses which resemble tilt, but isn't (in rapid, this probably means dropping 50-100 points within a few sessions), then it might be an indicator that if you stay mentally strong through it (and don't legitimately tilt), then in roughly two months, the rating will have gained back AND gone up to the next threshold. 

We'll see what happens!

This is what I explained in my The Psychology of Tilt and How to Climb Back - Chess.com happy.png

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MisterWindUpBird wrote:

Strange when players over 2000 call themselves 'bad.' 

time to be condescending

*clears throat*

2000 players ARE bad

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Then what’s a 1400

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chaotikitat wrote:

Then what’s a 1400

a 1400

duh

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Lol

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Better han being bad I guess 😝

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It's because when you drop your rating which is not necessary tilt and you analyze your games afterwards you realize that most of your opponent are able to find some holes in your play which is either blunders or lack of concentration or confidence and many more you go back and work on your play trying to eliminate these holes which makes you a stronger player some of these hole are a hard find during play which is why you analyze your games after playing and some times coaches, trainers help you find these holes even faster another trick that those is a lot with the same person as he will always trying use your weakness against you which is why some players just play solid chess avoid complications and wait for their opponent to make a mistake then it's game over as they will rarely make mistakes and the position will not be that complicated that they fall for any traps and tactics will rarely even surface from these sought of position. While others will try to reach an endgame complicate things and show their good endgame technique 

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B1ZMARK wrote:
MisterWindUpBird wrote:

Strange when players over 2000 call themselves 'bad.' 

time to be condescending

*clears throat*

2000 players ARE bad

i mean, as a 2000 rated player myself, i can't really disagree with this...

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mrfreezyiceboy wrote:
B1ZMARK wrote:
MisterWindUpBird wrote:

Strange when players over 2000 call themselves 'bad.' 

time to be condescending

*clears throat*

2000 players ARE bad

i mean, as a 2000 rated player myself, i can't really disagree with this...

exactly

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colorfulcake wrote:
mrfreezyiceboy wrote:
B1ZMARK wrote:
MisterWindUpBird wrote:

Strange when players over 2000 call themselves 'bad.' 

time to be condescending

*clears throat*

2000 players ARE bad

i mean, as a 2000 rated player myself, i can't really disagree with this...

exactly

Yep

Avatar of UmarBadeko

It's because when you drop your rating which is not necessary tilt and you analyze your games afterwards you realize that most of your opponent are able to find some holes in your play which is either blunders or lack of concentration or confidence and many more you go back and work on your play trying to eliminate these holes which makes you a stronger player some of these hole are a hard find during play which is why you analyze your games after playing and some times coaches, trainers help you find these holes even faster another trick that those is to play a lot games with the same person as he will always trying use your weakness against you which is why some players just play solid chess avoid complications and wait for their opponent to make a mistake then it's game over as they will rarely make mistakes and the position will not be that complicated that they fall for any traps and tactics will rarely even surface from these sought of position. While others will try to reach an endgame complicate things and show their good endgame technique