Andy, it was certainly not an unwise bet of yours. But this semantics issue is too trivial even for me!
Resignation Etiquette???
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ponz111 wrote:
Since I have myself won games several different ways it had to be untrue and I do not think I am the only person to have won games more than one way.
You do not understand that there are many ways to win a chess game?
Your statement is false and very misleading.
You can only win a game one way- checkmate, time-out, resignation, etc. Since I have myself won many games in each of these ways, it had to be untue that you can win a game more than one of these ways. I do not think I am the only person who has won a game these ways.
Do you not understand this simple truth? Why are you trying to lie to everyone and assign bad motives and kick puppies?
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Yes, wait till they grow up (or at least age long enough) to be yappy rat dogs and then kick them!
Ivandh, you are really funny! You state you can only win a game in one way and then give three ways to win a game!
Ah, now you are modifying the wrong thing you said. You say there are three ways to win games, but a game can only be won in one way at a time! Why do you hate Santa?
I hate Santa because he looks stupid. You are adding the phrase "at a time"
ponz111 wrote:
I hate Santa because he looks stupid. You are adding the phrase "at a time"
Oh this is going to hurt!
You might not like Santa because maybe he tried to kiss your Mom. Something to that song "I saw mommy kissing Santa Claus"
Now for the big that most people do not know he does the rest of the year. Now hold on to your chairs. Santa Claus has a dirty secret. Ok i how do i break the news. Ok...... Santa Claus is a pimp. He wears red and always saying Ho Ho Ho. And not buying all that talk about reindeers. Well you figure it out as it this point something sounds fishy about Rudolf. Ok you might debate that. But he has us bringing the stores money. We are talking about the 2nd Santa Claus here.
AndyClifton wrote:
Funny, I've never noticed Looby having difficulty arguing with anyone.
LOL, i have to take time out to enjoy this one. I managed to turn the situation around 180 degrees. This is a serious accomplishment!!!!!
Elubas wrote:
Well, I thought the statement was true, and preferred to word it that way as it emphasizes making use of the piece. To just say "follow up with good play" is something we all hear and is less specific than I wanted. If the falseness of the statement caused a lot of disturbances for you, I apologize.
We may disagree on a lot of things, but it's almost as if you want to create even more arguments. I'm not sure why, but in any case, I'm not really interested in the argument of the precise correctness of my statement -- I'll give the victory to you on that one if you want it.
What he has conceded territory? Antarctica? Must be do to the climate or want us to go there and enjoy all that cold. He surrenders the Bahamas then we talking something good. Anyway it appears The Resistance has gained some ground over The Alliance.
"the statement" , The conditional statement you created to satisfy a situation. The 2 Rooks case is lost for an opponent and you try to twist it around to win a point by talking off the topic. Just say next time that the value of a Rook is 5 pts and ask me to agree. Different statement but same strategy that you are using here. As the value of the rook has nothing to due with Resigning.
I see your Vector changed when you went into a territory that was going to get you buried. Your best move so far.
AndyClifton wrote:
Funny, I've never noticed Looby having difficulty arguing with anyone.
His recent, er, opponents as it were are a bit... unconventional heh.
ponz111 wrote:
Since I have myself won games several different ways it had to be untrue and I do not think I am the only person to have won games more than one way.
You do not understand that there are many ways to win a chess game?
Really?
waffllemaster wrote:
ponz111 wrote:
Since I have myself won games several different ways it had to be untrue and I do not think I am the only person to have won games more than one way.
You do not understand that there are many ways to win a chess game?
Really?
Hey stay out the BINGO hall at the Senior Citizen Home.
"Sonny either you got Bingo or not, if not i am going to collect and we can get another game in. I do not have all day and no time to waste at this age sonny. This the 2nd time you did this. Now i am a pieceful person i going to have to take my cane and put your over my knee and whup you with it."
See this is what happens when you prolong a lost situation.
waffllemaster wrote:
AndyClifton wrote:
Funny, I've never noticed Looby having difficulty arguing with anyone.
His recent, er, opponents as it were are a bit... unconventional heh.
add General TSO's Chicken and we have a mea.
@charlies: Internet Chess Club
I get two things out of this:
1). It is rude to drag out a lost game, then resign immediately before checkmate.
2.) If a game is hopelessly lost, it is rude to drag it out to checkmate.
I'm not sure I agree totally with number 1. While I wouldn't intentionally drag out a lost game, if I or my opponent was caught by suprise, I would not consider it rude to resign when mate is imminent. I fact, I'd consider it an acknowledgement that the winner had played well.
Generally, that's the way I take a resignation - and the way I intend it to be taken when I resign - Congradulations to my opponent.
Like others, I will play out a lost game hoping my opponent makes a mistake. However, once it is obviously not going to happen, I think it rude not to resign. For example, I would consider it rude to force an opponent to play out a took (only) ending - unless I felt he might not manage it. On the other hand, a bishop and knight ending I'd play out unless I was sure my opponent could manage it.
Somewhat off topic - are comments rude? It seems to me gennerally not , but not sure.
Thoughts?
RHWoodcock wrote:
I get two things out of this:
1). It is rude to drag out a lost game, then resign immediately before checkmate.
2.) If a game is hopelessly lost, it is rude to drag it out to checkmate.
I'm not sure I agree totally with number 1. While I wouldn't intentionally drag out a lost game, if I or my opponent was caught by suprise, I would not consider it rude to resign when mate is imminent. I fact, I'd consider it an acknowledgement that the winner had played well.
Generally, that's the way I take a resignation - and the way I intend it to be taken when I resign - Congradulations to my opponent.
Like others, I will play out a lost game hoping my opponent makes a mistake. However, once it is obviously not going to happen, I think it rude not to resign. For example, I would consider it rude to force an opponent to play out a took (only) ending - unless I felt he might not manage it. On the other hand, a bishop and knight ending I'd play out unless I was sure my opponent could manage it.
Somewhat off topic - are comments rude? It seems to me gennerally not , but not sure.
Thoughts?
I have generally the same view, but I feel that especially during bullet and blitz games, or even non-top rated OTB tournament games, it is not considered rude to drag out a game simply because of being down significant material (eg 5 points). In many middle game positions, a "lost" situation may be very dynamic such that one or two tactics later the situation is improved or reversed. Perhaps only to play out the most optimal continuation and observe if the tides shift. I believe that chess sportsmanship also includes fighting for a comeback and holding on to the last chance (as in a possbility of certain advantages in areas such as tempo or piece coordination). I view the ability to draw as also an art. (Get it?)
@RHWoodcock Anyways, I wasn't too sure what do you by comments? Comments made by the opponent during a game? Would you like to clarify?
Sometimes I resign, sometimes I don't. But everytime I resign (even if K+R vs K) I feel like I should have played the game out till the end.
It's not about that particular game. It's about getting into an habit at least at my level. Why would I want to ever think of resigning. It's stupid to expect my opponents to do so. I don't mind opponents hoping for a stalemate as long as they don't take unnecessarily long between moves.
Everytime I haven't resigned in a hopeless situation I have played better in subsequent games.
I'm not really interested in the argument of the precise correctness of my statement -- I'll give the victory to you on that one if you want it.
$5 says he doesn't let it drop (heehee!).