Response from Caught Cheater - Worth Reading

What knowledge!!!

 Thanks, I didn't know that was his name as it's not in his profile. 

My name is Catalin :)

As of chess.com, it is a business at the beginning. I understand well why they are reluctant to apply the harsh, even agressive cheating policy from ICC.

 now that's far more manly lol.  Of course costelus could be a woman? 

To compare the ratings here and the normal otb ratings is silly.  First of all, with each move made the player is allowed to reference books etc before making their next move, obviously not something GMs in an OTB comp can do.  I am guessing a lot of the 'real' good players play the same way on here as they would OTB, ie no referencing after each move, and do their practice and study in a different manner.  Just a guess.

Also to basically accuse 45 of the top rated players here of cheating is based on nothing and makes you sound like you are acting more out of jealousy than anything else.

I look at someone's Performance Rating in relation to his Average Opponent Rating.

What does this tell you?  People's average opponent ratings can be what they are for a myriad of reasons. 

i feel people who cheat and are caught should be allowed back if they  1.  show genuine remorse,  2.  apologize online  and also apologize by e-mail to all their opponents they beat   and 3. pay a fine to chess.com for taking up time and resources....just thinking outloud here.....

I think that zero tolerance should be zero tolerance.  Making exceptions sets a dangerous precedent -- some people and organizations repeatedly break the law simply because they can afford the penalties and it's worth their while when held up against the benefits of being able to bend the rules.  I don't see officially softening the punitive recourse for an offense as egregious as cheating to be of any benefit.

You're just one of the logical people that are around ilikeflags...

Thank God for people like you...

I think we all must agree, the superior organ of thought is the heart. I feel so good now!

How do you define genuine remorse?

What you say it's an absolutely normal situation. It may happen that, once in a while, to play a very good game against a GM. I also had a draw some time ago against an IM, on ICC (20 mins per game I think).

OK, for the second part, let me reformulate: 100% of the top players here are by far the best players in the history of chess. No human player, either OTB or correspondence, played so well. I am simply amazed how a relatively small and young site like chess.com attracted such chess giants to play here anonimously and without being payed thousands of dollars (as it is the case with today's top OTB grandmasters).

Not the rating of the top players is important, but the quality of their game. No tactical error in their games, many novelties ... its the perfect chess Fischer was dreaming about without being able to achieve.

Why do you keep ignoring the fact that the players may reference and study up what move to make while playing the online chess here?  If I was to do such a thing I have no doubt that my rating would be well above 2000, but play me in an otb game and my level would be drastically reduced!

Because in the past -- before the computers -- study did not improve so much the quality of the play. Then, a game finished in a single year was considered a fast time control. Very good OTB players (some with GM title), played correspondence chess in the past, and they did a lot of study/analyzing. Yet, they never managed to reach the level of the top players here. Amazing, isn't it?

lol no

End point still: Chess.com bans people who cheat. That's our golden standard here. 

So the correspondence chess was rated was it?