RIP Steve Jobs! (take two)
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Oct 8, 2011
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Another interesting note: that anti-capitalistic mob protesting about the evils of Wall Street
Are communicating, talking and texting on the I-phone, a product of capitalism they vilify.
Pretty hypocritical if I say so myself.
Ronliv wrote:
Another interesting note: that anti-capitalistic mob protesting about the evils of Wall Street Are communicating, talking and texting on the I-phone, a product of capitalism they vilify. Pretty hypocritical if I say so myself.
No, it isn't. Everyone has a right to criticise the system they are living under. Besides, OWS is not explicitly anti-capitalist yet. You're talking rot.
By your reasoning, Ron, you have no right to criticise Chinese labour practices, because most of your goods are likely made in China. How dare you criticise something you benefit from so obviously!
We live in an imperfect world full of imperfect people. Some--a very few--turn out to be geniuses in one field or another. Surely we can't reasonably expect them to be more perfect than us. So we celebrate the good and hope that the injustices will be rectified, even though we also know that they may not be. What's interesting to me about this view, is that it is the very things that make people achieve great things that also contributes to some of their greatest failures. It's the complexity that makes up every great drama. So we love Beethoven for his creations, not his personality. Same with Carnegie, Jobs, etc etc. And of course this being a chess site, we dislike Fischer's personal rants, but we lionize him for the fact that he singlehandedly brought down the Soviet chess machine at the height of the Cold War and made chess more popular in the US. The play is not yet over...
iMourn
Oct 8, 2011
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#68
if you look at history, and the different political/economic systems that people lived under, and if you are intellectually honest, capitalism by far has liberated more people from poverty than
Any other system. Am I saying it is a perfect system? No, no system is perfect, but it sure comes close. Reminds me of the saying, "don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good."
China is Communist, and of course I don't agree with their political system. They have had to turn to capitalistic principles even though there are no individual freedoms or else they would have followed in USSR's footsteps. You should read the essay I Pencil sometime to get a better grasp of how things really work. it's pretty sad that we use oil from the Middle East,
Are dependent on them to a large extent when we have all the resources here to meet our
Economic needs for the next 200 years. I'm sure by then we will discover if not invent new
Sources of energy, but let's use what we have.
"don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good."
Haha! That's perfect for this thread.
While I totally agree with the quote, Jobs would not.
Oct 8, 2011
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#70
Whether Jobs would agree with it or not is besides the point...it's a true statement, and the sad point that many seem to be unaware of is that they are comparing him to perfection. We
Are focusing on his accomplishments not whether he was perfect in every way. Unless you
Don't want to admit he accomplished anything. Then that's another denial.
You don't seem to be focusing on his achievements at all. You seem much more inclined to tout the superiority of capitalism.
So, if I point out irony in a thread, I don't need you to steer me back on course. Oh, and the U.S. economic system is not capitalistic.
Oct 8, 2011
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#72
you miss the point...he was able to accomplish what he did because of capitalism, and even though Socialism has creeped into our system where government has more power than it should bailing out companies and even being part owner of some, capitalism has given
Us the standard of living that is the envy of the world. But keep trying to compare our system to perfection if you want, if that gives you any level of satisfaction ;-)...
iMourn 2GS
Well done Babs, a great man and a huge loss.
I sadly first heard of his passing via an alert on my iPhone... an obvious irony that clearly illustrates what an impact he had on the world.
And in my opinion, as an aesthete and lover of tech, a very positive impact.
RIP.
A friend of a friend posted this on facebook and it says it all...
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iMourn
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iMourn 2GS
Biggest hypocrite in modern history
watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW0DUg63lqU
now read this:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/20/steve-jobs-google-grand-theft_n_1023111.html
One question. Would the iPhone or iPad exist today in the capacity it exists today if Steve Jobs hadn't of been behind the innovations? And there is no denying he was the driver of that wheel.
These iPad users are certainly grateful that it exists: