Take back request option
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Oct 14, 2007
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Well one reason that there is no takeback option is because after you make your move you must click "submit" to confirm your move so there is no possibility for a "mouse slip". The only other reason for a takeback would be for a "brain slip", but that is not real chess. We must all live with the mistakes we make.
"A man that will take back a move at chess will pick a pocket." - Richard Fenton
There's no such thing as a take back in real chess. You have to live with the mistakes you make.
Oct 14, 2007
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The rest of the story -
Richard "Takeback" Fenton is currently serving time (8 years) in Leavenworth for aggravated pickpocketing.
If it weren't for the occasional blunder, I fail to see how a game could be lost.
Even in blitz games, where mouse slips are possible, I have a simple policy:
3: * No takebacks asked or granted.
Granting them gets you into all sorts of moral conundrums. Was your opponent's mistake a mouse slip or they needed more time to spot the move? Is it fair to gain or lose rating points because of a takeback? What if you grant an opponent a takeback, but then you're refused one later that game or the next game? I made a blunder last week and my opponent offered me a takeback. I did the ethical thing (for me) and declined.
This probably doesn't fit into real chess, but I have a comment about takebacks. One is when I was learning my superior opponent would allow takebacks. When I am teaching a new person sometimes I allow takebacks or I use the question, "Are you sure you want to do that?". When I am playing an opponent where we are fairly evenly matched or even when we are not if the person has been playing for some time no.
JediMaster wrote: This probably doesn't fit into real chess, but I have a comment about takebacks. One is when I was learning my superior opponent would allow takebacks. When I am teaching a new person sometimes I allow takebacks or I use the question, "Are you sure you want to do that?". When I am playing an opponent where we are fairly evenly matched or even when we are not if the person has been playing for some time no.
Agreed. No take-backs make teaching far more time consuming and less rewarding when the novice has a lost game inside a very few moves.
The only place for takebacks is when you are teaching someone. If it's not that type of game than I say no. Maybe have a new game type like "teaching" or something like that, so you can takeback moves and of course the game shouldn't be rated automatically.
Aye... in unrated games or on an analysis board it's a good feature.
batgirl wrote: I agree. That should be on an interactive analysis board, not in a game.
That would be a great feature for this site.
I think that if you ask for takebacks on Internet chess, then you are doing your OTB game a dis-service by programming your subconscious mind to be less vigilant about the consequences of a mistake.
Anyway, losing positions can be useful practice on how to win on time or how to defend inferior but possibly drawable positions.
Chess.com offers an analysis board to use during your game...this is more than you get during OTB games...With the submit button and the analysis board...there is no need for takebacks...
A takeback in chess is like pulling out a glove and slapping your oponent in the dace. Take responsibility for your actions.
I don't use the analysis board I like to keep it real. Though takebacks would be good if you're teaching someone, even though you could just go over the whole game afterwards I still think being able to in game would be nice for helping others. I don't see it being a big deal to have it as long as the games are not rated. You have nothing to lose by offering takebacks under the right conditions.
KingFork wrote: A takeback in chess is like pulling out a glove and slapping your oponent in the dace. Take responsibility for your actions.
A dace is any of a number of species of small cyprinid fish. The unmodified name is usually a reference to the common dace (Leuciscus leuciscus).
Oi! bully! Leave those dace alone! (Pink Floyd plays in the background). 
We all are human have instances of genius and stupidity. For the later wouldn't it be nice to be able to request a take back from you opponent??? I find that I make moves that are seemingly ok but then on second glance are plain old terrible. SO erik, what do you think?