That's true DiogenesVC with the Vote Chess groups.
In fairness to all many VC groups were banned before Dawns finally realized that just about every VC group he checked had broken every Masters Match Rates. In reality he would have had to ban most every group so he gave up completely with VC. It only takes 1 engine user to sku the whole game regardless of the group size ???
Ive been a memebr of Last Rites for a little while. I cant speak for the past , but anyone suspected of engine use would be kicked immediately.
I could name loads of strong vote teams that have had cheats booted, but thats not the point of this forum.