There should be a rating penalty for aborting games

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tomjoad

Live chess: so many aborted games. Why? Someone with a higher rating clicks on my seek, and then aborts. Or someone with whatever rating decides that they don't like my opening move. Or? No idea.

It's very annoying. I think there should be a penalty of x points for aborting a game, just like there is for abandoning a game. True, an aborted game has not started yet but there is a courtesy factor here.

Also, most times it does not seem to be a disconnect because I get a message that so and so has closed the game window - so clearly the server connection was still live.

My current defense against this annoying behavior is to be preemptive: if someone with a rating of 300+ more than me accepts my seek, I will abort the game simply because in my experience, if I don't, they usually do. This sucks and I don't like doing it but so it goes.

Ok - that's my little rant after having 4 games aborted on me in a row.

GoAdelaideUnited

Same with me - ten in a row I've had enough

bart225

I don't even go to live chess anymore  , everytime after 4 to 6 moves  the game is aborted , it's not the oponent  , must be the server  or  who knows what it is .

Ricardo33

there is no courtesy here, i have a bad experience  with the tournament because many people abandon the games and i am in a astruggle and many playesrs have even two winned games and is because their opponents abandon the game , and suddenly they are the leaders without play!!!!

elephantwizard

I often get disconnected, and my rating does go down.  (Way down)

bondiggity

so when somebody joins my seek and doesn't make a move, I should lose points for aborting that game after a reasonable amount of time?

Raibutai

Bondiggity has a point.

tones

How does one abandon a game?

tomjoad
bondiggity wrote:

so when somebody joins my seek and doesn't make a move, I should lose points for aborting that game after a reasonable amount of time?


What I do in that case is just create another seek and let the idle person time out.

Totally stupid "solution", I agree and I am not really a point whore (check my rating ;-) but I think there should be some rating mechanism to encourage a bit more civil behavior.

tomjoad
tones wrote:

How does one abandon a game?


afaik - closing the window without resigning constitutes an "abandoned" game - though there may be some server timeout issues involved at times too.

bondiggity
tomjoad wrote:
bondiggity wrote:

so when somebody joins my seek and doesn't make a move, I should lose points for aborting that game after a reasonable amount of time?


What I do in that case is just create another seek and let the idle person time out.

Totally stupid "solution", I agree and I am not really a point whore (check my rating ;-) but I think there should be some rating mechanism to encourage a bit more civil behavior.


Time doesn't start until both players have made the first move. Your "solution" doesn't really solve anything.

 

Point is, if you think people are aborting due to a rating difference, just set a rating range.

tomjoad

Better solution is to put in a penalty to prevent such rude behavior

sarkinaiki

My current defense against this annoying behavior is to be preemptive: if someone with a rating of 300+ more than me accepts my seek, I will abort the game simply because in my experience, if I don't, they usually do. This sucks and I don't like doing it but so it goes


Suggestion: use advanced option to limit the rating of players who can see your seek. You might want to limit your seeks to 100 points higher than your own.

tomjoad

My basic point though is that it is rude to accept a seek and then abort the game. I don't know why people do it - I was only guessing about ratings etc. The main point is that there should be EITHER - a penalty - OR a user interface element that asks you to confirm: "Do you really want to accept this seek?" ZZZThe latter would be more polite but I really think something needs to be done about this in live chess.

Also - while I am here... there is no current way in the Live Chess GUI to block someone who repeatedly aborts games. That would also be a good addition.