Resolved must claim: Threefold Repition

Hello, I was wondering why a sight as advanced as chess.com doesn't recognize the Threefold Repition Rule? This is where if the same position is reached 3 times, the game is a draw. I was recently playing a game with the same position reached 3 times, yet no draw was declared. My question to the chess.com community is, why?

If you want the proof, look at my game against mcd560, then go to moves 69-74.

Did you hit the draw button to declare a draw?

I had asked for a draw, it said "you opponent declined the draw offer".

Anthony, the rule is a repeated position 3 times, not necesarily in any particular order. And I won that game anyways so it's not a huge deal, but other sites (chesscube), declare this automatically. Next time I'm in that position I'll be sure to hit the draw, I know I hit it after many repeats in this game, two times I hit it in fact, but maybe it wasn't a three-fold yet.

The game in which you are speaking of is not a draw because it is going through three different positions.

chessblood, in moves 69-74 the same position occurs on the board 3 times...

yea, that was def. a threefold rep - maybe you hit the draw button too early.  did you try it again after a while?

Um... "Repition"?  Repetition. 

The thing that disappoints me is that in real games, after the position is repeated 3 times, it IS a draw. It's not a draw if one player calls it, the game ends there. So in reality, the site had ripped my opponent off. I know on other sites like chesscube, this rule is automatically enforced, as it should be. Shouldn't the most popular chess website also follow the basic rules of chess?

From the Wikipedia entry quoting the FIDE rules - looks like you have to ask for it. "Automatic" is just a server/convenience option.

The relevant rule in the FIDE laws of chess is 9.2, which reads:

The game is drawn, upon a correct claim by the player having the move, when the same position, for at least the third time (not necessarily by sequential repetition of moves)

Yes but in a 10 minute game trying to count the positions and seeing if it is really a 3 repetition draw can be time consuming and could make you end up losing on time... I think on blitz it should be automatic...

That would be a nice option for those 1- and 2-minute games for sure!

No, he dont have to  to ask for nothinggggggggggg!!!!!! 

ITS A BASICCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC RULE OF CHESS.. BASIC!!!!!!!!!

THREE FOLD REPETITION RULE, LIKE IT SAYS:

"RULE"----SHOULD BE AUTOMATICALLY ENFORCED BY THE SYSTEM HERE... 

I´ve already spoken here about this issue but chess.com dont listen and i dint know why!!! Its a basic Mistake from the Staff and should be reviewed.

I wonder if you had a basicccc RULE like  "EN PASSANT" and to make the move you had to click on a button!!! That is stupid...i respect your opinions but i dont have to agree with them, even when it should be respected all the rules, including this one. We are not talking about an issue, or a problem to solve with a game ,we ARE TALKING OF RULES AND LIKE ALL THE RULES, SHOULD BE RESPECTED. You are driving your car, if you dont respect the limits of velocity...bang. you are bying something, if you dont pay.. bang..Rules my friends..rules!!!

Are you kiding me??!!!

Be real guys.

THank you.

@Quiroga: You would do well to review the rules of the foremost federations (e.g., USCF and FIDE), if you have not already done so. The repetition rule is not automatic but must be claimed in these organizations. Chess.com's treatment of this rule is consistent with them.

Metastable, above, quoted the relevant rule from FIDE. This is the correct interpretation of the rule.

you could have played rfe1+when his queen was at d7 followed by kd8 rad1!

Based on this understanding of the USCF/FIDE/chess.com rules, you can ask for a draw even if it doesn't meet the three fold repetition rule.  Who has time to verify the 3-fold-rep rule during the game?  Or must it be similar to football games where you challenge a referee call, and a playback is reviewed, and judgment is called on whether the 3-fold-rep actually exists?

yes i know whirlwind2011 but in other chess sites, the system recognize the draw, we are not on a competition,tourneys...whatever.

We are playing online and like a rule that she is, must be enforced... Thank you

I do think the rule should be made automatic, in bullet and blitz especially. In those games you don't have the few seconds to spare to try to get a threefold repition draw.

@Quiroga: Then I am unclear on your point. Other chess sites are free to treat the threefold repetition rule as they see fit. Chess.com's treatment, however, is consistent with the top organizations, and this website enforces it accordingly. Are you saying that Chess.com is wrong to enforce the repetition rule as the foremost federations enforce it?

whirlwind, in bullet games, yes, I don't feel like wasting time hitting the draw button every time I suspect a three repetition draw.