Welcome DeirdreSkye And if nothing else, I'm listening...so, cutting to the chase...chess.com is ABSOLUTELY determined to move to V3. OK we all get it...but this is the forum and the time to send serious improvement suggestions to MGleason who is the supermod (and a sexy British guy), so God please save the Queen, and let's all get our V3 improvement suggestions out there and debated. Absolutely relevant and intelligent contribution DeirdreSkye, and we thank you for that.
V2 DESERVES TO LIVE ON
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Sep 2, 2017
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luminarius wrote:
Not exactly repetition. Think about it the Dave v Hal (from Kubrick's classic 2001 A Space Odyssey) analogy is somewhat relevant here. The important thing is trying to keep chess.com managers mods and what have you from ignoring the foundation of their own brilliant success (so on into Greek tragedy territory). Dave's comment just shows to what extent they have abandonned humility leaning on that success, by insisting on V2's good points, they come back with : "We've got more users than ever"...maybe so...but chess.com has a SOUL. If one's inflating numbers with android chat addicts, but ignoring the needs and concerns of the serious chess player (which I consider myself...please see logozar comment on timer problems in V3 above) then chess.com very naively runs the risk of losing its SOUL. Did anyone ever stop to consider that the increase in numbers may simply be the effect of Newtonian momentum? Anyway two points...
1) The link given by Dave above does not work as he pretends.
2) The serious mod with links to Eric and the V3 java programmers is MGleason...so please everyone trying very hard to keep chess.com from shooting themselves in the foot and selling their soul to some android devil analogy...send your sincere and well documented bug reports to MGleason.
you've already missed the boat...
David's link does indeed work, but you need to be in v3.
Sep 2, 2017
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#23
luminarius wrote:
Welcome DeirdreSkye And if nothing else, I'm listening...so, cutting to the chase...chess.com is ABSOLUTELY determined to move to V3. OK we all get it...but this is the forum and the time to send serious improvement suggestions to MGleason who is the supermod (and a sexy British guy), so God please save the Queen, and let's all get our V3 improvement suggestions out there and debated. Absolutely relevant and intelligent contribution DeirdreSkye, and we thank you for that.
you're wasting your time there too... i've been pointing out faults with v3 for over a year now, none have come to be corrected. But the process is far too far gone to be turning back. But who cares about problems when you can add bells and whistles at your leisure?
Glad to see u back gambit-man But maybe there's some light at the end of the tunnel. Ending his vacation ERIC who seems to be the owner of the very awesome chess.com site, has DECIDED to move to V3. So now the crunch is on for people like you to post HERE. MGleason (supersexy supermod) IS LISTENING and there's nothing wrong with repeating yourself until your heard. That's the principle behind everything that's great in our lives. So lets put a smile on and help chess.com to maintain its level of service to serious chess players as well as the new android generation. And now on behalf of everyone, I challenge the mod community to get ERIC to make some mod regulated direct chat forum or other link DIRECTLY TO THE V3 JAVA DEVELOPMENT TEAM.
Sep 2, 2017
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#25
DeirdreSkye wrote:
But could v3 be designed to be as similar to v2 as possible?
I think it could(I know for fact that everything is possible).
They tried that, it's called "Classic" theme, but doesn't really look much like v2 at all...
Sep 2, 2017
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#26
Umm... don't send all the suggestions to me. I'm just a moderator. Send them to the people who are actually in a position to consider them and potentially implement them. There's a "Make a suggestion" tool under the Help menu in v3, or you can contact support at https://support.chess.com/customer/portal/emails/new. Alternatively, you can join the v2 club and comment in there: https://www.chess.com/club/chess-com-v2
It shows clubs in France because that link is designed to work in v3. Here's the v2 link:
https://www.chess.com/groups/view/chess-com-v2
Sep 2, 2017
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#28
luminarius wrote:
Glad to see u back gambit-man But maybe there's some light at the end of the tunnel. Ending his vacation ERIC who seems to be the owner of the very awesome chess.com site, has DECIDED to move to V3. So now the crunch is on for people like you to post HERE. MGleason (supersexy supermod) IS LISTENING and there's nothing wrong with repeating yourself until your heard. That's the principle behind everything that's great in our lives. So lets put a smile on and help chess.com to maintain its level of service to serious chess players as well as the new android generation. And now on behalf of everyone, I challenge the mod community to get ERIC to make some mod regulated direct chat forum or other link DIRECTLY TO THE V3 JAVA DEVELOPMENT TEAM.
I haven't been anywhere...
Save your breath, v2 is being killed off at the end of the month, regardless of what messages you manage to convey to the dev team...
There is a stark difference between people listening and acting upon suggestions. V3 is completely backwards in many ways, it certainly is not an upgrade. But it's already for the knackers yard, v4 already in development. Unfortunately, it will look much like v3...
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MGleason on 9/2/17, 2:11 PM:
Flash certainly contributed a lot to make the internet what it is today, but it's past time for it to go. HTML5 generally provides the same functionality without the same kind of security issues.
Other than some disruption around the kill date, the only significant loss will be some legacy browser games will no longer work.
Idea: Please make a list of all the things you like about v2 that are not present in v3.
luminarius wrote:
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Original Message by MGleason on 9/2/17, 2:11 PM:
Flash certainly contributed a lot to make the internet what it is today, but it's past time for it to go. HTML5 generally provides the same functionality without the same kind of security issues.
Other than some disruption around the kill date, the only significant loss will be some legacy browser games will no longer work.
Don't be so sure supersexy brit mod dude (joking of course). Think about the possible backlash when all the serious chess players some of them titled who are able to ignore the problems in V3 by running back to V2 no longer have that option. THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO EXCUSE FOR ANY OF THE AWESOME FEATURES IN V2 THAT PUT CHESS.COM #1 CANNOT BE INTEGRATED INTO V3. Get ahold of this awesome ERIC owner guy, who did so much for the international chess community and get him to realize that whoever's pulling his leg on the V3 development team is about to feel HIS POWER as ultimate deciding entity. Chess.com is AWESOME, let's work together to keep it that way. There must be direct accountability on the part of the V3 development team to the users their salaries (and ERIC's bottom line) depend on. How can we get the V3 development team to be more responsive? I suspect (as a veteran IT systems engineer for American Airlines) that ERIC must take a long hard look at the test before roll out scenarios and stop listening to V3 development team lead excuses.
One of the things I like about v2 is the ability to go through someone's content page by page.
Does v3 have this?
v3 is coming, deal with it.
Make a list of all the things you don't like about it and the list of the things you like about v2 over v3. Then report it directly to erik, post it in the v2 group, and/or (possibly least effective) post it in the public forums.
Sep 2, 2017
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#35
I agree!
I think V2 is better overall. For example, working through the Chess Mentor is easier on V2. There you can get a few hints while on the newer version just one.
V2 is also simpler in use. I really like the V2 and it does deserve to live.
Long Live V2!
Sep 2, 2017
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#36
It's good that V2 may last beyond Sept 30 - I really can't see how it can become as fast as V2, or how I will be able to play 3 0 from my phone like I do it on other chess websites (which one :-) ?)
Someone else wrote (and I agree) that I love it when I can see how many times my threads were read. V3 doesn't have that.
V3 people have fallen for standard lines of marketing hype, Buddy.
V3 is using modern code constructs for the website to increase their SEO rating. (SEO - Search Enginge Optimization.) Its how high up one's website lists when a user searches for say "chess site" in Google or Bing's search engine.
The higher one's SEO rating, typically, the higher up one's web site is in the list, as close to #1 without paying Google $$ to have your website ranked higher. Google's search engine, e.g., ranks web sites using Drupal higher than those using Wordpress as Google's engineers believe only websites using Drupal are sites properly written by high-level coders whereas Wordpress sites are a dime-a-dozen (cheap, anybody can write stuff).
Maintenance has little to do with it, especially from a hardware perspective. The hardware underneath it all cares little about the software.
Once your SEO score is higher, you also can attract more revenue from would-be advertisers. They will pay more money for sites that are more visible to internet browsers. So higher SEO ==> more ad $$.
Follow the money, and find answers you will.
david wrote:
Frankly, I don't like how erik seems to be wavering on the end-of-v2 deadline in that club, but that's not something the "don't get of V2" folks seem to recognise out here.
That is not evident to the general membership, or was it even suspected.
Only someone inside the engine-room would be aware of any "wavering".
The first rule in business is to survive. It is ahead of profit, at least in the short-term.
The nay-sayers are not hostile at him or the business. The users want the business to survive, in spite of anger and disappointment, and some fairly forthright criticisms. We know how good this site was, and stayed as members because it was really, really good.
Erik has forced the issue by the announcement, and it would be hard for him to defer the change-date.
But, THAT may be the wisest business decision he will ever make about chess.com.
The "2%" are the majority of the smartest members on the site, and most have life experience. Ignore the 2% if you must, but when the 98% wake up, watch out. They will not tell you how to fix it, they will just walk away.
Sep 2, 2017
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#39
luminarius wrote:
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1) The link given by Dave above does not work as he pretends.
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This may have been answered but if you are on v2 that link won't take you where intended.
You need https://www.chess.com/groups/view/chess-com-v2
That link works in both versions.
edit: see the link had already been posted
gambit-man wrote:
Here's a challenge for you, try it in both v2 and v3, then tell me which is quicker... go to the Leaderboard for blitz players and tell me who is ranked 1500 on that list. I asked @erik that the other night...
I just reached #3000... it took me 24 minutes to get there, constantly scrolling down to the bottom of the list then clicking on "more". By the time i got to the end the site would take 10-12 seconds to add the next page, then 18-20 seconds to respond to my scrolling.
In v2, to reach #3000 takes SECONDS