Beginners and Early Resignations

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Infinite_Blitz
infinitefrustration wrote:
freerobuxman wrote:

About 2 months ago I got a game that lasted 3 moves

 

He/she should have thrown in a queen check. If you block with either bishop or knight out of habit, the "trapped" knight gets traded and black is fine.

Who said I can't block with a pawn?

Infinite_Blitz
Elbow_Jobertski wrote:
infinitefrustration wrote:
freerobuxman wrote:

About 2 months ago I got a game that lasted 3 moves

 

He/she should have thrown in a queen check. If you block with either bishop or knight out of habit, the "trapped" knight gets traded and black is fine.

Also slamming the knight into f2 getting a pawn and forcing the king to move is probably enough compensation to make the game not totally hopeless at the beginner level and maybe into the intermediate levels depending on time control. 

Not at all. A beginner would know to manually castle and black would be just down a knight.

Guepeou

Honestly, when I made a huge mistake, I don't think it's useful to continue the game. I prefer resign and then starting again and learn of my mistake.

Of course, if my mistake is for example losing a bishop at the beginning of the game, i have no reason to resign. But if I give for free a queen in a critical moment, why continue. But I don't like to resign because resign = loosing = loosing ELO points

infinitefrustration
freerobuxman wrote:
infinitefrustration wrote:
freerobuxman wrote:

About 2 months ago I got a game that lasted 3 moves

 

He/she should have thrown in a queen check. If you block with either bishop or knight out of habit, the "trapped" knight gets traded and black is fine.

Who said I can't block with a pawn?

no one

Infinite_Blitz
infinitefrustration wrote:
freerobuxman wrote:
infinitefrustration wrote:
freerobuxman wrote:

About 2 months ago I got a game that lasted 3 moves

 

He/she should have thrown in a queen check. If you block with either bishop or knight out of habit, the "trapped" knight gets traded and black is fine.

Who said I can't block with a pawn?

no one

Really? then why didn't you say in your comment that I could block with a pawn?

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BirgissonJ
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kneejo

I was taught never to resign, especially in the beginner/medium range. Sometimes I do though, when I don't see a win to save both of us some time. Sometimes I resign and look at the game later only to see that I had opportunities that I didn't see at first. I've regretted resigning sometimes and wish there was a way to undo that action if the opponent agrees. I only play correspondence it that can take days off a game. Once I lost my queen, but it was in the beginning of the game. In the middle game I managed to get my opponents queen due to a blunder on his part. You never know what happens until you're a master.

infinitefrustration
freerobuxman wrote:
infinitefrustration wrote:
freerobuxman wrote:
infinitefrustration wrote:
freerobuxman wrote:

About 2 months ago I got a game that lasted 3 moves

 

He/she should have thrown in a queen check. If you block with either bishop or knight out of habit, the "trapped" knight gets traded and black is fine.

Who said I can't block with a pawn?

no one

Really? then why didn't you say in your comment that I could block with a pawn?

Well, I said if you block with your knight or bishop "out of habit" (meaning without thought), implying that blocking with those peices are not good moves. I made the assumption everyone reading the post was aware that blocking with pawn or queen or moving the king were also ways to get out of check.

 

My point really was that your opponent had not yet lost his/her knight. That peice was still on the board, and it made sense for them to see if they could induce you make a move that would make the loss of the knight hurt less, rather than resign before they had even lost the knight.

Infinite_Blitz
infinitefrustration wrote:
freerobuxman wrote:
infinitefrustration wrote:
freerobuxman wrote:
infinitefrustration wrote:
freerobuxman wrote:

About 2 months ago I got a game that lasted 3 moves

 

He/she should have thrown in a queen check. If you block with either bishop or knight out of habit, the "trapped" knight gets traded and black is fine.

Who said I can't block with a pawn?

no one

Really? then why didn't you say in your comment that I could block with a pawn?

Well, I said if you block with your knight or bishop "out of habit" (meaning without thought), implying that blocking with those peices are not good moves. I made the assumption everyone reading the post was aware that blocking with pawn or queen or moving the king were also ways to get out of check.

 

My point really was that your opponent had not yet lost his/her knight. That peice was still on the board, and it made sense for them to see if they could induce you make a move that would make the loss of the knight hurt less, rather than resign before they had even lost the knight.

oh alright.

Infinite_Blitz

I had a game like 2 days ago where I was completely lost, and my opponent decided to make a bunch of queens just to make fun of me, and then stalemate occurred.

EchoGSierra
I have been experiencing the same issue. In order to counteract this, and I know the argument can be made that an actual player is better, but I usually play the bots to work on my endgame.
hermanstinkt

I resign when the prospects of winning/playing for a draw become too small. Against a lower-rated player I am less inclined to resign when I blunder a rook for example or when I am down a couple of pawns in a theoretically lost endgame. Another factor you should consider is your time, do you have any prospect of flagging your opponent?

An example:

In this position (move 38 if the diagram doesn't start there) I was down 4 pawns and black is completely winning here. I could have easily resigned here as I had a lot less time than my opponent too. However I still saw one winning possibility: If my knight were on e6 Rf8 would be mate. So I went for it and it worked out rather well. 

 

Another example: 

From move 32 onwards white is completely winning. In fact if white had gone 47. b3 they would have won. The reason I pushed for this is because my opponent was lower rated than me. i.e. I saw good prospect in pushing for a draw. 

However if I blunder a piece in the opening vs someone with a 1600 rating with no good prospect I'll happily resign. 

Steve_YeaH

That's Right

Infinite_Blitz
hermanstinkt wrote:

I resign when the prospects of winning/playing for a draw become too small. Against a lower-rated player I am less inclined to resign when I blunder a rook for example or when I am down a couple of pawns in a theoretically lost endgame. Another factor you should consider is your time, do you have any prospect of flagging your opponent?

An example:

In this position (move 38 if the diagram doesn't start there) I was down 4 pawns and black is completely winning here. I could have easily resigned here as I had a lot less time than my opponent too. However I still saw one winning possibility: If my knight were on e6 Rf8 would be mate. So I went for it and it worked out rather well. 

 

Another example: 

From move 32 onwards white is completely winning. In fact if white had gone 47. b3 they would have won. The reason I pushed for this is because my opponent was lower rated than me. i.e. I saw good prospect in pushing for a draw. 

However if I blunder a piece in the opening vs someone with a 1600 rating with no good prospect I'll happily resign. 

That's unless if it's a pawn or a minor piece

Infinite_Blitz

Idk why my 1400 opponent thinks that I can't checkmate with a king and a queen, because he kept playing on