What do you mean? I do not have my game against the fide master, it was just an example that I need to improve on my endgames, and I want to know which book or books I should study to get an endgame knowledge that are around 2000+ strength in FIDE.
Endgame book suggestions for 1700 FIDE player
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It is one hundred percent wrong that Carlsen did not read any book before he achieved his number one spot in the world. I want some serious book suggestions that can fully cover what I need to gain 2000+ strength in the endgame.
I do not think you understand my question... I am asking for what books I should read to gain 2000+ strength in endgames. By the way what are your rating?
What is your rating?
WhatDidIMiss, thanks for getting a good answer!
MasterMindSouvlaki, no it is not a bad question because if your rating is like 1200 which is the only rating I can find on your chess.com profile then you do not have enough knowledge to answer my question, but I finally got a good answer from another guy, so I DONT CARE!
alesjakk: I would also recommend reading Mikhail Shereshevsky's books, 'Endgame Strategy' and 'Mastering the Endgame, vol I & II', for general endgame play knowledge (rather than the theoretical endgame positions).
mickynj wrote:
Yes! That dialog read very weirdly. I assume that the other side of that conversation has been banned
dialogue*
Speak not the language of the peasants, or one day an undesirable transformation shall occur.
I have also made a very helpful topic on endgames, as I am an endgame master and expert researcher of a sort myself.
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/endgames/closings
Username333 wrote:
what about silman's complete endgame course?
Definitely would recommend that as well to the OP.
ghost_of_pushwood wrote:
If sadkid isn't showing you mastery enough.
It is much more than mastery enough. It is the golden banana which all the greater apes strive for
ghost_of_pushwood wrote:
(Btw why did Tarzan name his chimp after a completely different animal? I mean, if his kid was Boy, shouldn't the chimp have been Chimp?)
the chimp was his real son so he felt the need to name him something special
"... before discussing the specifics of Dvoretsky's Endgame Manual [henceforth 'DEM'], a word of warning is in order. I must emphasize that this is a terribly advanced work that I don't think is a very good way for the average player to study the endgame. The majority of the examples are complex and position-specific, and neither the average student nor even strong masters will follow or play over most of the hundreds of positions that are given extensive analysis, not to mention the subvariations derived from those positions. Even when introducing 'the basics', Dvoretsky's approach is often more complex than is necessary for an average student, and in any case such a thick book will seldom be used for the sake of elementary instruction. The majority of the other material is frankly very difficult. So take note: I don't want to be blamed, in praising this book, for your purchasing something that you find intimidating, relatively dull, or otherwise unsatisfying. That said, if you are up to a real challenge and have a great deal of time to devote to reading and playing over examples you will inevitably derive great value from this work. ..." - IM John Watson (2005)
http://theweekinchess.com/john-watson-reviews/the-end-game-comes-before-we-know-it
http://www.jeremysilman.com/shop/pc/Dvoretskys-Endgame-Manual-3rd-Edition-78p3502.htm
https://web.archive.org/web/20140708233815/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/review399.pdf
https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/2703.pdf
"... Even more so than with most books, what you get from [Endgame Virtuoso Anatoly Karpov] will depend upon how much you put into it. And that relation is probably not linear, i.e., a small amount of study may reward you only superficially, while true devotion may enrich you for life. Maybe." - IM John Watson (2007)
http://theweekinchess.com/john-watson-reviews/theres-an-end-to-it-all
https://web.archive.org/web/20140708091155/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/review603.pdf
http://www.jeremysilman.com/shop/pc/Endgame-Virtuoso-Anatoly-Karpov-78p3850.htm
"... one will not learn the basics from [Shereshevsky's 'Endgame Strategy'] at all; ... I like this book a lot, but it has more to do with transitions from the middlegame than with endings themselves." - IM John Watson (2000)
http://theweekinchess.com/john-watson-reviews/endings-endings-endings
"... The second part of [The Shereshevsky Method] is a concentrated version of Endgame Strategy, ..."
https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/9056.pdf
"... the 2000+ player for which 100 Endgames You Must Know is really intended ..."
https://web.archive.org/web/20140708105702/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/review645.pdf
http://www.jeremysilman.com/shop/pc/100-Endgames-You-Must-Know-78p3863.htm
https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/9026.pdf
"... I'm convinced that Silman's [Complete Endgame Course] will take its place in history as one of the most popular endgame books ever. It has already caught on with the average player in a big way, confirming Silman's status as the king of instructional writers. He writes in a clear and casual style, and time and again has shown the ability to reach those who feel intimidated by the lofty approach that a grandmaster will often take. ... Silman ... defines what he thinks is necessary to know at specific rating levels. For example, the beginner or unrated player needs to know ... Silman's idea is to wait until you climb in strength before you worry about more advanced material. Then, as a Class 'E' player (that's 1000-1199), one must learn ... Silman's book emphasizes to the student that the important thing is to master the strictly limited material at hand, rather than get confused by endings that won't help your results at that level. Perhaps even more importantly, Silman is able to use his teaching experience and talk to his readers in a way that they can handle, in a friendly manner and without condescension. ... I'll also repeat the point that David Ellinger in ChessCafe makes: '[This ...] demonstrates who this book will truly serve best: anybody who coaches chess. For me, as a perpetually near-2000 player who does part-time coaching, I’ve got in my hands a great resource that will have something for every student, no matter the rating.' ..." - IM John Watson (2007)
http://theweekinchess.com/john-watson-reviews/theres-an-end-to-it-all
https://web.archive.org/web/20140708103149/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/review594.pdf
Various endgame study possibilities discussed at:
https://chessbookreviews.wordpress.com/tag/chess-endgames-for-kids/
http://www.gambitbooks.com/pdfs/Chess_Endgames_for_Kids.pdf
https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/7742.pdf
https://chessbookreviews.wordpress.com/tag/mikhalchishin-and-stetsko/
https://www.chess.com/article/view/book-review-winning-chess-endings
http://chessimprover.com/averbakhs-chess-endings-essential-knowledge/
https://web.archive.org/web/20140708234309/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/review704.pdf
http://www.gambitbooks.com/pdfs/Understanding_Chess_Endgames.pdf
http://theweekinchess.com/john-watson-reviews/endings-endings-endings
http://theweekinchess.com/john-watson-reviews/the-end-game-comes-before-we-know-it
http://theweekinchess.com/john-watson-reviews/theres-an-end-to-it-all
Before buying any particular book, I suggest going to the publisher site to see if it is possible to view a sample. Perhaps of interest:
https://www.chess.com/news/view/endgame-references-for-beginners-and-novices-6799
https://www.chess.com/news/view/your-endgame-troubles-end-here-prelude-8881
https://www.chess.com/news/view/your-endgame-troubles-end-here-6042
https://www.chess.com/news/view/king-and-pawn-endgames-4467
https://www.chess.com/news/view/rook-and-pawn-endings-9565
DeirdreSkye wrote:
Try to master fundamental endgames with Dvoretsky's Endgame Manual and then study Shereshevsky's 2 books "Endgame strategy" and Karolyi's "Endgame Virtuoso Anatoly Karpov: The Exceptional Endgame Skills of the 12th World Champion".
Spend a lot of time and effort in these 4 books, play a lot of tough tournaments and you will be 2200(or even higher) in no time(no time I mean 2-3 years).
Endgame Manual is way too advanced at this point. It contains everything an elite player must know more or less by heart. Silman's 'Complete Endgame Course' or Keres 'Practical Chess Endings' is much more suitable for now.
Hi!
I am a 15 year old chess player with a FIDE rating of around 1720. I have struggled with endgames, a week ago I had a rook endgame against a Fide Master in blitz where it was a theoretically drawn position, but I lost it. I want suggestions on what books I should get to have a solid endgame knowledge both on endgame theory and practical play that is good enough for maybe 2000 strength FIDE. What is your suggestions?
Thanks in advance!