I don't trust Computer's analysis of the game ending.

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korotky_trinity

While I played the end of this game... I was very optimistic... I constantly felt that I could win.

Is this self-deception? Or I really could?

Your opinion?

 

AunTheKnight

I hope someone else can chime in. I really don't know.

korotky_trinity
AunTheKnight wrote:

I hope someone else can chime in. I really don't know.

Ok.

In fact I had only 3 minutes left in my disposal... So I couldn't even think over the position well.

AunTheKnight
korotky_trinity wrote:
AunTheKnight wrote:

I hope someone else can chime in. I really don't know.

Ok.

In fact I had only 3 minutes left in my disposal... So I couldn't even think over the position well.

I know. A 10|5 would be nice.

Laskersnephew

After 26. Kg2, it's pretty hard to imagine winning this endgame for either side. But your opponent went a bit wrong and gave you chances.  32.e6 was a very impulsive move, and I'm not sure what you were intending with that move. Endings with nothing but bishops of opposite colors are famously hard to win, even with an extra pawn

Arisktotle

Won? You certainly could have lost after 42. ... a5! I see no reason to doubt the engine analysis at that stage. Even for a human it is quite obvious. I noticed that the engine gave you a good chance after 17. Bf4 but that was a long way back in the game.

korotky_trinity
Arisktotle wrote:

Won? You certainly could have lost after 42. ... a5! I see no reason to doubt the engine analysis at that stage. Even for a human it is quite obvious. I noticed that the engine gave you a good chance after 17. Bf4 but that was a long way back in the game.

Hmm... then it's strange.

I actually felt my advantage in the end of the game.

My intuition constantly was about that I could win. )

Funny.

korotky_trinity

GM Ginger explained that a player should trust his intuition.

korotky_trinity
Laskersnephew wrote:

After 26. Kg2, it's pretty hard to imagine winning this endgame for either side. But your opponent went a bit wrong and gave you chances.  32.e6 was a very impulsive move, and I'm not sure what you were intending with that move. Endings with nothing but bishops of opposite colors are famously hard to win, even with an extra pawn

I meant if I moved 39. Bishop b4.... instead of 39. g4... and only then I did send my g-pawn ahead for promotion... So my plan was.

My left flank was solid and in security then... and I could move quietly my g-pawn to turn into Queen.

 

peepchuy

After 34. Bc7 the game is drawn, but somehow you managed to get losing chances later. Fortunately for you, your opponent did not capitalize.

It is ok not to trust this quick computer analysis. They are quite shallow, and can actually be wrong. In these cases, use your own engine and give it more time.

 

Arisktotle
korotky_trinity wrote:

GM Ginger explained that a player should trust his intuition.

... during play. After it, your intuition requires nourishment with a piece of solid analysis.

korotky_trinity
Arisktotle wrote:
korotky_trinity wrote:

GM Ginger explained that a player should trust his intuition.

... during play. After it, your intuition requires nourishment with a piece of solid analysis.

Ok. )

mrfreezyiceboy

opposite color bishop endgames with equal pawns are drawn most of the time

mrfreezyiceboy
mrfreezyiceboy wrote:

opposite color bishop endgames with equal pawns are drawn 99% of the time

though 42. a5! would have won the game

korotky_trinity
mrfreezyiceboy wrote:
mrfreezyiceboy wrote:

opposite color bishop endgames with equal pawns are drawn 99% of the time

though 42. a5! would have won the game

Yes ! So I could win though... )

I felt it. But... as always... when only 3 minutes remained on the clock... I begin to hurry.

BryanCFB
korotky_trinity wrote:
mrfreezyiceboy wrote:
mrfreezyiceboy wrote:

opposite color bishop endgames with equal pawns are drawn 99% of the time

though 42. a5! would have won the game

Yes ! So I could win though... )

I felt it. But... as always... when only 3 minutes remained on the clock... I begin to hurry.

He meant 42...a5! could win for black.  Sorry to disappoint.happy.png

BryanCFB


Sometimes one can draw even two pawns down in an opposite colored bishops endgame.

Here is an example.

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ninjaswat

I do believe there is a tablebase option that isn't wrong for the ending, not sure if that applies here, was it 7 pieces total or for each side? hmm...

Aron_08

If there's only 7 pieces then, use tablebase: https://syzygy-tables.info/