I hate the threefold repetition rule

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icantcomeupwithagoodname yazdı:

Okay, so picture this:

Your opponent continues to check you for 100 moves with the exact same pattern and neither of you can get out of that never ending cycle, it's just whoever moves faster or has more time wins (excluding games with increment, where the game would literally never end). it would be equally BS if you (person ahead) is lower on time (so same scenario) and it would just be a complete waste of time either way. Removing / banning the rule doesn't make the game more fair, it just makes it so whoever the hell has more time wins, and in a game with increment, the game will never end as both of you will probably just premove, so it's just whoever has to go first. It's equally BS and just a complete waste of time.

OK. What u say makes sense. But bro, u r about to eat someone's queen with forking and he doesn't wanna lose the queen(of course). And now that guy U r playing against is repeating moves not to lose the queen. So tell me, should this game be draw, or should he lose the game 4 cheating? Tell me that.

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Oyna10dakika wrote:
icantcomeupwithagoodname yazdı:

Okay, so picture this:

Your opponent continues to check you for 100 moves with the exact same pattern and neither of you can get out of that never ending cycle, it's just whoever moves faster or has more time wins (excluding games with increment, where the game would literally never end). it would be equally BS if you (person ahead) is lower on time (so same scenario) and it would just be a complete waste of time either way. Removing / banning the rule doesn't make the game more fair, it just makes it so whoever the hell has more time wins, and in a game with increment, the game will never end as both of you will probably just premove, so it's just whoever has to go first. It's equally BS and just a complete waste of time.

OK. What u say makes sense. But bro, u r about to eat someone's queen with forking and he doesn't wanna lose the queen(of course). And now that guy U r playing against is repeating moves not to lose the queen. So tell me, should this game be draw, or should he lose the game 4 cheating? Tell me that.

The game should be a draw because it's not cheating.

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Oyna10dakika wrote:
icantcomeupwithagoodname yazdı:

Okay, so picture this:

Your opponent continues to check you for 100 moves with the exact same pattern and neither of you can get out of that never ending cycle, it's just whoever moves faster or has more time wins (excluding games with increment, where the game would literally never end). it would be equally BS if you (person ahead) is lower on time (so same scenario) and it would just be a complete waste of time either way. Removing / banning the rule doesn't make the game more fair, it just makes it so whoever the hell has more time wins, and in a game with increment, the game will never end as both of you will probably just premove, so it's just whoever has to go first. It's equally BS and just a complete waste of time.

OK. What u say makes sense. But bro, u r about to eat someone's queen with forking and he doesn't wanna lose the queen(of course). And now that guy U r playing against is repeating moves not to lose the queen. So tell me, should this game be draw, or should he lose the game 4 cheating? Tell me that.

What if you checkmate someone in that same scenario when you're about to lose your queen instead of just drawing them? Should checkmate when you're down material also be removed?

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Checking constantly is not against the rules or cheating... The only variant which checking constantly is viable for a ban is bughouse or crazyhouse.

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MsBlackBear wrote:

Checking constantly is not against the rules or cheating... The only variant which checking constantly is viable for a ban is bughouse or crazyhouse.

wait how do you get banned from bughouse by 3 fold lol

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neatgreatfire yazdı:
Oyna10dakika wrote:
icantcomeupwithagoodname yazdı:

Okay, so picture this:

Your opponent continues to check you for 100 moves with the exact same pattern and neither of you can get out of that never ending cycle, it's just whoever moves faster or has more time wins (excluding games with increment, where the game would literally never end). it would be equally BS if you (person ahead) is lower on time (so same scenario) and it would just be a complete waste of time either way. Removing / banning the rule doesn't make the game more fair, it just makes it so whoever the hell has more time wins, and in a game with increment, the game will never end as both of you will probably just premove, so it's just whoever has to go first. It's equally BS and just a complete waste of time.

OK. What u say makes sense. But bro, u r about to eat someone's queen with forking and he doesn't wanna lose the queen(of course). And now that guy U r playing against is repeating moves not to lose the queen. So tell me, should this game be draw, or should he lose the game 4 cheating? Tell me that.

What if you checkmate someone in that same scenario when you're about to lose your queen instead of just drawing them? Should checkmate when you're down material also be removed?

OK. I imagine it's me. But still bro, it's annoying. Im about to lose my queen let's say. Then thats my mistake. At that situation, i need to accept he played better than me. As simple as that. I'm not gonna try to end it in draw just bcs im about to lose. Thats being cry baby. And just a reminder, im not one of em.

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Oyna10dakika wrote:
neatgreatfire yazdı:
Oyna10dakika wrote:
icantcomeupwithagoodname yazdı:

Okay, so picture this:

Your opponent continues to check you for 100 moves with the exact same pattern and neither of you can get out of that never ending cycle, it's just whoever moves faster or has more time wins (excluding games with increment, where the game would literally never end). it would be equally BS if you (person ahead) is lower on time (so same scenario) and it would just be a complete waste of time either way. Removing / banning the rule doesn't make the game more fair, it just makes it so whoever the hell has more time wins, and in a game with increment, the game will never end as both of you will probably just premove, so it's just whoever has to go first. It's equally BS and just a complete waste of time.

OK. What u say makes sense. But bro, u r about to eat someone's queen with forking and he doesn't wanna lose the queen(of course). And now that guy U r playing against is repeating moves not to lose the queen. So tell me, should this game be draw, or should he lose the game 4 cheating? Tell me that.

What if you checkmate someone in that same scenario when you're about to lose your queen instead of just drawing them? Should checkmate when you're down material also be removed?

OK. I imagine it's me. But still bro, it's annoying. Im about to lose my queen let's say. Then thats my mistake. At that situation, i need to accept he played better than me. As simple as that. I'm not gonna try to end it in draw just bcs im about to lose. Thats being cry baby. And just a reminder, im not one of em.

Stop avoiding my question. I'm asking you - Should checkmates when down material also be banned? And stalemates? Heck, should chess just be "when you get more material you win"?

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neatgreatfire yazdı:
Oyna10dakika wrote:
neatgreatfire yazdı:
Oyna10dakika wrote:
icantcomeupwithagoodname yazdı:

Okay, so picture this:

Your opponent continues to check you for 100 moves with the exact same pattern and neither of you can get out of that never ending cycle, it's just whoever moves faster or has more time wins (excluding games with increment, where the game would literally never end). it would be equally BS if you (person ahead) is lower on time (so same scenario) and it would just be a complete waste of time either way. Removing / banning the rule doesn't make the game more fair, it just makes it so whoever the hell has more time wins, and in a game with increment, the game will never end as both of you will probably just premove, so it's just whoever has to go first. It's equally BS and just a complete waste of time.

OK. What u say makes sense. But bro, u r about to eat someone's queen with forking and he doesn't wanna lose the queen(of course). And now that guy U r playing against is repeating moves not to lose the queen. So tell me, should this game be draw, or should he lose the game 4 cheating? Tell me that.

What if you checkmate someone in that same scenario when you're about to lose your queen instead of just drawing them? Should checkmate when you're down material also be removed?

OK. I imagine it's me. But still bro, it's annoying. Im about to lose my queen let's say. Then thats my mistake. At that situation, i need to accept he played better than me. As simple as that. I'm not gonna try to end it in draw just bcs im about to lose. Thats being cry baby. And just a reminder, im not one of em.

Stop avoiding my question. I'm asking you - Should checkmates when down material also be banned? And stalemates? Heck, should chess just be "when you get more material you win"?

Dude, u got my point in a WHOLE different way. Did i said those rules should remove?NO. Just ending the game in a draw which is OBVIOUSLY not a draw, thats a bad move than. Just give me 1 reason 3 rep. rule is important? Now a question from me.

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Oyna10dakika wrote:
neatgreatfire yazdı:
Oyna10dakika wrote:
neatgreatfire yazdı:
Oyna10dakika wrote:
icantcomeupwithagoodname yazdı:

Okay, so picture this:

Your opponent continues to check you for 100 moves with the exact same pattern and neither of you can get out of that never ending cycle, it's just whoever moves faster or has more time wins (excluding games with increment, where the game would literally never end). it would be equally BS if you (person ahead) is lower on time (so same scenario) and it would just be a complete waste of time either way. Removing / banning the rule doesn't make the game more fair, it just makes it so whoever the hell has more time wins, and in a game with increment, the game will never end as both of you will probably just premove, so it's just whoever has to go first. It's equally BS and just a complete waste of time.

OK. What u say makes sense. But bro, u r about to eat someone's queen with forking and he doesn't wanna lose the queen(of course). And now that guy U r playing against is repeating moves not to lose the queen. So tell me, should this game be draw, or should he lose the game 4 cheating? Tell me that.

What if you checkmate someone in that same scenario when you're about to lose your queen instead of just drawing them? Should checkmate when you're down material also be removed?

OK. I imagine it's me. But still bro, it's annoying. Im about to lose my queen let's say. Then thats my mistake. At that situation, i need to accept he played better than me. As simple as that. I'm not gonna try to end it in draw just bcs im about to lose. Thats being cry baby. And just a reminder, im not one of em.

Stop avoiding my question. I'm asking you - Should checkmates when down material also be banned? And stalemates? Heck, should chess just be "when you get more material you win"?

Dude, u got my point in a WHOLE different way. Did i said those rules should remove?NO. Just ending the game in a draw which is OBVIOUSLY not a draw, thats a bad move than. Just give me 1 reason 3 rep. rule is important? Now a question from me.

If you can force a perpetual, it is by definition NOT a winning position. If your opponent was better before, that means they blundered. And shouldn't a blunder be punished? But what in your eyes makes getting a draw different from getting checkmate? You want 3 fold repetition gone, but why do you still want to allow people to checkmate their opponent from a worse position after a blunder? What's the big difference?

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Oh, and here's a reason it's important - It is another way to add depth and complexity to the game, and to punish people for making a mistake allowing you to get 3 fold repetition. 

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Bruh. I just don't like the three repetition rule cause i once get fooled by my friend bcs of this rule and dude, he was about to lose his queen(forced trade or whatever that's called). That's just why i don't like this 3 i dunno what rule.

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OK. Let's let the people end it in draw legally after making a blunder and end it in draw. If we are gonna cry after every blunder and end the game 1/2 for both sides, than why r we playing this thing?

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Oyna10dakika wrote:

Bruh. I just don't like the three repetition rule cause i once get fooled by my friend bcs of this rule and dude, he was about to lose his queen(forced trade or whatever that's called). That's just why i don't like this 3 i dunno what rule.

Do you not like forks because you blundered one once? Do you think they should be removed? "I blundered so I think this rule should be removed" seems a bit silly.

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Ending the game in draw when u r losing is also silly my man.

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Oyna10dakika wrote:

Ending the game in draw when u r losing is also silly my man.

But you aren't losing if you can force a draw! If you can force a checkmate when you're down material, does that mean you were losing?

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Why would i be forced by the algorithm to end it in a draw instead of winning by an advantage? 

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Oyna10dakika wrote:

Why would i be forced by the algorithm to end it in a draw instead of winning by an advantage? 

You blundered, you get a worse result. This isn't hard to understand lol

Out of curiosity, are you older or younger than 8?

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Dude, think. U r eating his queen and about to checkmate. And what ur opponent does? Ends it in a forced draw. 

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Oyna10dakika wrote:

Dude, think. U r eating his queen and about to checkmate. And what ur opponent does? Ends it in a forced draw. 

Then you must have blundered, and should be punished for your blunder.

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sounds like a you problem fr