Is this a draw or a win for Black?

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Arisktotle

The difference is 1 tempo move. For instance this position is a draw, no matter which side is on move:

 

 

I_make_mistakes_16

I think black has a winning position here as white has to take the king back and black can just push his king and pawn so  black so easily win it

lucalambert

I would say draw

IHateLosingIMustWin

black has an extra pawn so obviously its a win for black. what a silly question. 

KevinOSh
IHateLosingIMustWin wrote:

black has an extra pawn so obviously its a win for black. what a silly question. 

There are many drawn games where one side has an extra pawn.

Anyway this question has been answered ad-nauseum already. It should be locked.

IHateLosingIMustWin
KevinOSh wrote:
IHateLosingIMustWin wrote:

black has an extra pawn so obviously its a win for black. what a silly question. 

There are many drawn games where one side has an extra pawn.

Anyway this question has been answered ad-nauseum already. It should be locked.

it is technically impossible to draw if opponent has an extra pawn. unless that pawn is on the h file or the a file. 

Laskersnephew

"it is technically impossible to draw if opponent has an extra pawn. unless that pawn is on the h file or the a file. "

This is so seriously incorrect that I assume that you have never played chess!

White: Pe5. Ke4 Black: Ke6  Show me the win with White to move. Show me the win with Black to move!

IHateLosingIMustWin
Laskersnephew wrote:

"it is technically impossible to draw if opponent has an extra pawn. unless that pawn is on the h file or the a file. "

This is so seriously incorrect that I assume that you have never played chess!

White: Pe5. Ke4 Black: Ke6  Show me the win with White to move. Show me the win with Black to move!

Pe5????? 

lmao what is this a patzer terminiology? what is Pe5, its 'e5' if you mean pawn. lol. 

btw how can you say i have never played chess. im an IM. 

Laskersnephew

"lmao what is this a patzer terminiology? what is Pe5, its 'e5' if you mean pawn. lol. 

btw how can you say i have never played chess. im an IM. "

 

Strange that even a pretend IM is unfamiliar with the way actual chess players describe a simple endgame position. You are confusing game notation with the way we describe a simple position, which is par for the course for you. 

Let me make it as simple as possible: White has a pawn on e5 and a king on e4. Black has a king on e6. 

According to you, it is "technically impossible  to draw in the opponent has an extra pawn unless the pawn in on the h file or the a file." Please demonstrate you "IM" endgame technique by showing us the win for White. You can choose if it's white or black to move!

IHateLosingIMustWin
Laskersnephew wrote:

"lmao what is this a patzer terminiology? what is Pe5, its 'e5' if you mean pawn. lol. 

btw how can you say i have never played chess. im an IM. "

 

Strange that even a pretend IM is unfamiliar with the way actual chess players describe a simple endgame position. You are confusing game notation with the way we describe a simple position, which is par for the course for you. 

Let me make it as simple as possible: White has a pawn on e5 and a king on e4. Black has a king on e6. 

According to you, it is "technically impossible  to draw in the opponent has an extra pawn unless the pawn in on the h file or the a file." Please demonstrate you "IM" endgame technique by showing us the win for White. You can choose if it's white or black to move!

its simple logic. 2 pawns vs 1 pawn. who wins? 

ron10023
IHateLosingIMustWin wrote:
Laskersnephew wrote:

"lmao what is this a patzer terminiology? what is Pe5, its 'e5' if you mean pawn. lol. 

btw how can you say i have never played chess. im an IM. "

 

Strange that even a pretend IM is unfamiliar with the way actual chess players describe a simple endgame position. You are confusing game notation with the way we describe a simple position, which is par for the course for you. 

Let me make it as simple as possible: White has a pawn on e5 and a king on e4. Black has a king on e6. 

According to you, it is "technically impossible  to draw in the opponent has an extra pawn unless the pawn in on the h file or the a file." Please demonstrate you "IM" endgame technique by showing us the win for White. You can choose if it's white or black to move!

its simple logic. 2 pawns vs 1 pawn. who wins? 

Depends on gameplay too, if black is unifamiliar with how to proceed, he might not be able to win the endgame =)

Sred

Look, we all know that an extra pawn isn't always winning. The troll also knows that. No need for further discussion.

Laskersnephew

Amen!

Circumlocutions
Interesting position!
snaiil64

This is a win for black.

1.Kg3, Kg7

2.Kf4, Kg6

3.Ke5, f4

4.Kxf4, Kf6

5.Kg3, Kf5

6.Kf3, f6

7.Ke3, Kg4

8.Ke2, Kxh4

Black now has 2 passed pawns that will queen and easily mate the white king