Microsoft Chess Draw?

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shadowxsx

I know it is vs a computer, but it does give a 1/2 decent game when it does so right..

Yet I keep getting draws and very few wins vs the computer. To me it seems as if the computer does not want to let me win as it calls the games a draw unless I get a couple move checkmate that it did not see.

Just for example today I played and ended up wiping out every one of the computers pieces except the king and it called a draw game with 4 of my queens on the board. I know that is virtually unrealistic vs a human player but still how can that be a draw when the pc has 0% chance of winning?

I am no chess expert by far but to me it only seems that if the last 2 pieces on the board were kings it would be considered a draw with a slim checkmate chance of cornering the opponets king.

I do not know if anyone else is asking this type of question (human vs pc), but if you are litteraly one move from checkmate with 4 queens facing you down and boxing you in, I see no way that is a draw only as conceiding the game.

 

My game stats read as

3 wins

22 draws (which is my issue as most were called 1 move from checkmate)

5 losses

Picard89

Are you sure you're not stalemating it?

shadowxsx

I guess you could say I am being a little sadistic with all the draws this game as I felt a little offended.

Yet most of the draws are more fair in the sense that the computer has more pieces and would be able to defend itself. Yet some draws are plain outright outrageous as I have made some moves that were very short into the game and all of a sudden it pops up saying draw when I  have 1 move to checkmate.

 

To me it feels as if the computer just wants a draw rather than a loss. After I posted this I played a few other games and had 1 win vs 1 loss with 2 draws that I could not fathom why they were a draw as the computer had defenses available (such as just moving it's king out of my bishops or knights line of attack).

Maybe it is must me as I tend to draw out wierd behavior of computers in many other games I tend too get errors that crash games as my actions are unexpected.

Picard89

could you post a screenshot the next time that happens? it seems quite surprising

waffllemaster

Just wait till this guy runs into en passant... baby it'll blow your mind Laughing

waffllemaster

But in the mean time I guess we can help you out a little :p

This is an example of a bad move by white because it's an immediate draw.

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Here's another likely example:

 

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The way to avoid this is not play like a total noob and take all your opponent's pieces and then make a bunch of queens Tongue out

Here are a few basic mates:






mastershredder

I can almost assure you that you stalemated if you have 4 queens on the board. That's a pretty absured move. The problem is that there's so many diagnals and lines being covered, that you're drastically increasing your odds of forcing a draw when you are promoting a pawn for a 3rd or 4th queen.

Mainline_Novelty
waffllemaster wrote:

But in the mean time I guess we can help you out a little :p

This is an example of a bad move by white because it's an immediate draw.

 

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Here's another likely example:

 

 

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The way to avoid this is not play like a total noob and take all your opponent's pieces and then make a bunch of queens

Here are a few basic mates:

 
 
 






But in diagram number 3, Qh4 mate looks cooler!!

waffllemaster
Mainline_Novelty wrote:

But in diagram number 3, Qh4 mate looks cooler!!

Yeah, in blitz I'll even take an extra move to mate just to do this sometimes :p  But it's not as instructive... because often beginners don't realize that a guarded queen in front of an enemy king can give mate.

shadowxsx

Ah ok thanks waffllemaster. Yeah that 1st screen looked a alot like that game that was called a draw. As I said it was a little venting of frustration, as I said it was unrealistic for that to happen.

 

As I said I am no expert on chess and I do not know all the intricate rules. Guess I need to read up on them apparently as most of the draws while unknowingly doing so I am stalemating apparently. Guess some games where the computer is beating me and it calls a draw I somehow did it or it did it to itself then.

shadowxsx
 

I was playing earlier and the computer did draw itself now that I am more aware of what I am looking to see, so I feel a little better about the draws now that I know the computer can draw itself not just my actions or a easy out. 
 
I had to resign earlier due to the fact that the computer refused to draw due to all pieces except kings were taken.

As for taking all other pieces I actually try not too do so (and get checkmate in as few moves as possible), but as my game where all that was left were kings I really had no option other than to do so other than lose.

shadowxsx

Mainline_Novelty I can not see your examples. As for a guarded queen I did that earlier with a queen and rook.


I did not really plan on doing it as I was using the rook to keep the king from another piece but when I saw that the king backed itself into a corner (not literally) I pounced with my queen and I had only taken 5 pieces of the computer (and it 6 of mine that were sacrificed).


I would show a screenshot but I can not post it,  it shows if I paste it but not in the post itself


Ps glad I found this site as it has good tools for some one who is familiar with the basics but not an overall grasp of the rules.

Mainline_Novelty
shadowxsx wrote:

Mainline_Novelty I can not see your examples. As for a guarded queen I did that earlier with a queen and rook.


I did not really plan on doing it as I was using the rook to keep the king from another piece but when I saw that the king backed itself into a corner (not literally) I pounced with my queen and I had only taken 5 pieces of the computer (and it 6 of mine that were sacrificed).


I would show a screenshot but I can not post it,  it shows if I paste it but not in the post itself


Ps glad I found this site as it has good tools for some one who is familiar with the basics but not an overall grasp of the rules.

1. I was quoting wafflemaster, thus the diagrams are the same as his.

2. FYI What most would consider to be "basics" is knowing ALL the rules, and basic tactics.

shadowxsx

To me the basics are how pieces move and as from reading the rules I knew the majority as most are on how pieces move, just not some stalemate rules. And Mainline_Novelty ok, just thought my pc was doing it as it sometimes does odd things.

As for playing vs computer I see it as more of a learning tool not an actual opponet. I am dialing up the hardness every few games and using it to refine my tatics and learn before moving into the vs human realm. 

I primarily posted here due to the fact that many games were called draw vs computer and felt that the computer was scamming me out of wins because I was defeating it. Yet now that I know a little more of stalemate rules I can see that some were due to my actions yet others were the computer doing it to itself.