Silman's Complete Endgame Course - any good?

B-Lamberth

My endgame could really need some attantion Embarassed, so I am looking for a good endgame book.

Has anyone any experience with Silman's Complete Endgame Course?

B-Lamberth

And what about:

Understanding Chess Endgames by John Nunn?

B-Lamberth

or:

CHESS ENDINGS MADE SIMPLE
by Ian Snape

Scottrf

Silman's is good, ordered by difficulty and what he thinks you should know at each rating level.

Alexm421

It is a really good book.

Frankovich73

Considering your rating it is excellent but once you get to Class A I don't think it covers enough material. When you get there Dvoretsky's book is a fantastic.

strngdrvnthng

Good book worth reading.

Chessislife2013
taylorgang73 wrote:

Considering your rating it is excellent but once you get to Class A I don't think it covers enough material. When you get there Dvoretsky's book is a fantastic.

Dvoretsky's Endgame Manual is exccelent.  I am reading it now.  Silman?  No clue, never read it.  Or the others.  Averbakh's (some other writers, sporadically, have helped write it) five volume Comprehensive Chess Endings is also good.  Reuben Fine's endgame book looks good, forgot the name.

Remellion

Reuben Fine's Basic Chess Endings, updated by Pal Benko. That book is way harder to digest than Silman's, although it's definitely way ahead in terms of content and thoroughness. Get Fine/Benko if you can stomach hours of serious endgame study from long lines of notation, get Silman if you want something lighter and easier to read.

Sam97

I would definitly go with Silman, I own a couple of his books including this one, due to the fact that he seperates the material by rating level, you're sure to find stuff you dont yet know, and stuff you should know as well!

I learned a lot of stuff from his book!

Retrodanny

Silman's Complete Endgame Course is a great book! all you will need for a long time

aggressivesociopath

The two endgame books I have are Silman's Complete Endgame Course and Dvoretsky's Endgame Manual (2nd edition). I think this is all the endgame knowledge that I am going to need. With a 1400 rating I would say Silman's Complete Endgame Course is all you need. It does not cover how to mate with Bishop and Knight, so you will have to learn that elsewhere.

B-Lamberth

Ok, thanks for the advice everybody.

defenestrated

Silman leaves out the knight, bishop, king vs. a lone king checkmate.  I'd have to agree at best I would say the book is incomplete and don't recommend it.

You can't go wrong with Dvoretsky.

thoughtson64

I have this book and I like it. I feel it is less academic and more personal than other end game books. It's like your grandpa teaching you instead of a coach and some ideas may seem overly simplistic and explinations feel a little generalized at times but I like that approach for now at my level. Easier to assimilate than a few other end game materials i've used in the past.

benonidoni

Often times videos get the point across more quickly. Check out Karsten Muellers endgame dvd videos.

Sam97
defenestrated wrote:

Silman leaves out the knight, bishop, king vs. a lone king checkmate.  I'd have to agree at best I would say the book is incomplete and don't recommend it.

You can't go wrong with Dvoretsky.

Silman does leave those out, but he states his reason in the book he says:

"Bishop and Knight (endgame) might never occur in your whole chess lifetime and is far too difficult to waste your precious study time on."

He say's if you really want to learn it, there are HUNDREDS of resources online.

I think calling this book incomplete solely based on the fact that it doesn't include Bishop+Kinght is unfair.

It is complete in every since of the word. The only execption is for engames above Master level 2400+, for that he recommends by name a few other books.

I hope you decide to get it!

defenestrated

The point of learning the B+K endgame is to gain a greater understanding of the knights and bishops game mechanics and how they interact, not so that you have the knowledge just in case it actually occurs.  That Silman doesn't understand that angle to it is surprising and disapointing.

There are "HUNDREDS" of resources online to learn all the endgames, so why buy the book at all........

thoughtson64
defenestrated wrote:

The point of learning the B+K endgame is to gain a greater understanding of the knights and bishops game mechanics and how they interact, not so that you have the knowledge just in case it actually occurs.  That Silman doesn't understand that angle to it is surprising and disapointing.

There are "HUNDREDS" of resources online to learn all the endgames, so why buy the book at all........

That reasoning has nothing to do with learning the end game which is the purpose of the book.

MrRahimlakhani

I think B+N checkmate is included in endgame books for the completeness of the book!! Also did anybody force you to read the whole book? you can ignore that chapter if it doesn't interest you...