Technique for Rook/Bishop vs. Rook Ending?

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clunney

Last night, I played a game over the board with one of my friends, and we got into a Rook vs. Bishop and Rook ending (I had the Rook).  

 

 

 

 

 

 

The game went on for about 23 moves before I made my first move that I would consider a blunder.  I accidentally headed to the corner controlled by his bishop, and was promptly mated.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I had never played in this ending before, which I think explains my poor play in it.  Could anyone give me any pointers as how to more precisely play this ending?  I know some bishop/rook vs. rook endings are actually won, but I have no idea if the position I showed was able to be drawn or not.

rooperi

http://www.k4it.de/?topic=egtb&lang=en

The first diagram is a draw. Tablebases are great :)

ajttja

in position 1 after Rxa3 you could have done Re3+ and made a draw

clunney

The final position isn't though... ;] So how do I avoid getting into that?

clunney

The initial position isn't right, I didn't have that option, sorry. 

I edited it to correct it.

rooperi

Well, go to that link, and play your position out on there.  At least you'll find the single move that lost it for you.

I thought it was amusing that the first move in the list of drawing moves in the first diagram for black is Rb1 :)

Remellion

Pointers for general play:

1) Bring your king to the centre (obvious) possibly by threatening rook exchanges to help him there.

2) Once in the centre, there's the Cochrane defence. Keep the bishop pinned to the opponent's king while walking around, avoiding corners.

3) If that somehow crumbles, try the second-rank defence. Keep the rook on the second rank with your king, and be very careful, but it should be drawn.

4) Don't walk into corners (obvious).

 

Information courtesy of an article on this site (I forgot the link but remember the ideas), Basic Chess Endings and Wikipedia. Further reading: search for the Philidor, Lolli and Czen (Szen) positions.

darkunorthodox88

for the defender

move  your king to a corner to the opposite color of your bishop. if you are attentive, you wont get checkmated, as the king has no way to not stalemate you

johorsky

This is a very difficult ending. Grandmasters struggle with it and often fail to draw. The bishop side always tries to win and often succeeds.