What Endgames To Study
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I'm around 1000 blitz rated and here are the endgames I learned: Q+K vs K, R+K vs K, P+K vs K, K+ c file or f file P vs K+Q(Draw) for 2R+K vs 1R+K(Win for 2R)I can't think of any now.
Where can you get Silman's endgame course book though, my parents don't trust some websites even though its safe.
one/two more endgames I learned: 2Q+K vs 1Q+K(Win for 2Q) , 1Q+K+P vs 1 Q=K ( Promote pawn to queen and its a win for 2Q)
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"I learned: Q+K vs K, R+K vs K, P+K vs K.' ++ Good, those are 3 men.
Now proceed with 4 men: KBB vs. K, KBN vs. K, KQ vs. KR, KQ vs. KP, KR vs. KP, KR vs. KN
Then proceed with 5 men: KNN vs. KP, KRP vs. KR, KQP vs. KQ.
tygxc wrote:
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"I learned: Q+K vs K, R+K vs K, P+K vs K.' ++ Good, those are 3 men.
Now proceed with 4 men: KBB vs. K, KBN vs. K, KQ vs. KR, KQ vs. KP, KR vs. KP, KR vs. KN
Then proceed with 5 men: KNN vs. KP, KRP vs. KR, KQP vs. KQ. For KQ vs KP, Don't you just keep checking aand get the king infront of the pawn (Fork the king and pawn to force that) and move ur king one step closer?
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"Don't you just keep checking aand get the king infront of the pawn (Fork the king and pawn to force that) and move ur king one step closer?"
++ Yes, with an b, d, e, g pawn on the 7th rank that is the method.
With an a, c, f, h pawn that does not work because of stalemate.
Tygxc how is it a stalemate for a and h pawn?
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The king hides on the promotion square of his pawn.
Oh
Dec 22, 2022
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tygxc wrote:
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"Don't you just keep checking aand get the king infront of the pawn (Fork the king and pawn to force that) and move ur king one step closer?"
++ Yes, with an b, d, e, g pawn on the 7th rank that is the method.
With an a, c, f, h pawn that does not work because of stalemate.
There's cases where the stronger side can win anyway, usually because the King is close enough. There's a great video of these positions here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEypLNcdjOY
Is there any videos for 4 men?
Dec 23, 2022
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Yyloh wrote:
Is there any videos for 4 men?
The video I posted was about K+Q vs K+P. That is 4 men, right? Or did you mean "are there any other videos for 4 men"?
Is there 6 men endgames?
IpswichMatt, I meant are there any other videos for other 4 men but never mind I already watched the KBB vs K and KNB vs K
Just have to learn KQ vs KR, KR vs KP and KR vs KN, also is KQ vs KN 4 men? Or is it impossible to win at all?
Dec 23, 2022
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Yyloh wrote:
Just have to learn KQ vs KR, KR vs KP and KR vs KN, also is KQ vs KN 4 men? Or is it impossible to win at all?
KR vs KP is very important. KQ vs KN is relatively easy I believe but I've never looked at it.
KQ vs KR is very difficult to master and is beyond me (apart from the Philidor position, I managed that OK). It is MUCH harder than K+B+N v K, for example. Although very difficult it's still worth having a look at it. There's some discussion here:
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/endgames/lets-talk-about-kq-vs-kr-okay
It might make sense to concentrate on the easier ones for now - i.e. easier endgames in general - rather than attempting all endgames involving 3 men, then all endgames involving 4 men, then 5 men etc - @tygxc may disagree of course!
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You should in any case start with the 3 endgames with 3 men.
I tend to agree that some 5 men endgames like KRP vs. KR are more important than some 4 men endgames.
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"Is there 6 men endgames?"
The most important 6-men endgame is probably KRfh vs. KR.